I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature...
Rebekah Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM
... just because they used a word that's so frequently thrown around as an insult. Quite often good naturedly, especially in highly macho arenas like rugby fandom can be. The biggest insult that macho blokes can throw at other blokes is weakness, and that's the meaning that faggot most often has in those circles.
It's like calling someone an arsehole. You just say it, and most often don't mean it.
Yes, it is certainly becoming a horrible insult for homosexuals, but she probably heard it a lot from her older male relatives so it won't have that meaning for her.
The American influence really only became huge in the late 70s and early 80s. Faggot is a much older insult than that.
That's what I mean. So no, she doesn't need to "soul search". She needs to think before she speaks or tweets, or whatever. And she needs to remember the connotation the word has for most people around the world and not use it again. That's as far as it needs to go, IMO.
It's like calling someone an arsehole. You just say it, and most often don't mean it.
Yes, it is certainly becoming a horrible insult for homosexuals, but she probably heard it a lot from her older male relatives so it won't have that meaning for her.
The American influence really only became huge in the late 70s and early 80s. Faggot is a much older insult than that.
That's what I mean. So no, she doesn't need to "soul search". She needs to think before she speaks or tweets, or whatever. And she needs to remember the connotation the word has for most people around the world and not use it again. That's as far as it needs to go, IMO.
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- 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM
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- 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM
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1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching...
- 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM
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? not that her comment was excusable...
- 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM
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It's not a cardinal sin against humanity...
- 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM
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or it just means...
- 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM
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Societal problems don't go away from the group level.
- 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM
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- 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM
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You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies).
- 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM
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I was trying to use her words...
- 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM
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Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there.
- 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM
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Glad to clear up that confusion.
- 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM
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- 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM
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I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology.
- 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM
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You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot.
- 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM
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I've seen it, and it was funny.
- 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM
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Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries.
- 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM
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I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)...
- 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM
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The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer.
- 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM
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OK, I can see that.
- 08/09/2010 10:09:16 PM
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I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature...
- 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM
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I'm not assuming there's an underlying bad nature, I am saying she should look to see if it's there.
- 08/09/2010 10:27:21 PM
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And I'm saying that you're instantly looking on the negative side of things instead of
- 08/09/2010 10:46:11 PM
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I don't think I'm looking at the negative side of things, merely saying that she needs to look.
- 08/09/2010 11:01:11 PM
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Or, she was replying to interview questions and thinking on her feet.
- 08/09/2010 11:10:26 PM
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She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol
- 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM
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Yes, but that's just a surface change.
- 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM
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