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I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... Rebekah Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM
... just because they used a word that's so frequently thrown around as an insult. Quite often good naturedly, especially in highly macho arenas like rugby fandom can be. The biggest insult that macho blokes can throw at other blokes is weakness, and that's the meaning that faggot most often has in those circles.

It's like calling someone an arsehole. You just say it, and most often don't mean it.

Yes, it is certainly becoming a horrible insult for homosexuals, but she probably heard it a lot from her older male relatives so it won't have that meaning for her.

The American influence really only became huge in the late 70s and early 80s. Faggot is a much older insult than that.


That's what I mean. So no, she doesn't need to "soul search". She needs to think before she speaks or tweets, or whatever. And she needs to remember the connotation the word has for most people around the world and not use it again. That's as far as it needs to go, IMO.
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Interesting way to bring people together - 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM 1990 Views
That is priceless. Go Stephanie Rice! *NM* - 08/09/2010 04:38:27 PM 516 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 1184 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 863 Views
1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching... - 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM 1146 Views
? not that her comment was excusable... - 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM 1208 Views
It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM 1341 Views
or it just means... - 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM 1280 Views
Societal problems don't go away from the group level. - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM 1093 Views
your soul is your being - 08/09/2010 08:43:18 PM 1131 Views
Just because you search does not mean you re-evaluate. - 08/09/2010 08:45:31 PM 1020 Views
You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies). - 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM 1104 Views
I was trying to use her words... - 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM 1219 Views
Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there. - 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM 1061 Views
Glad to clear up that confusion. - 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM 1239 Views
I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology. - 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM 1109 Views
I'm horrible for tearing into the meaning of words. - 08/09/2010 11:36:34 PM 1097 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 08/09/2010 10:46:12 PM 595 Views
You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot. - 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM 997 Views
I've seen it, and it was funny. - 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM 1199 Views
Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries. - 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM 1063 Views
I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM 1050 Views
The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer. - 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM 1238 Views
OK, I can see that. - 08/09/2010 10:09:16 PM 1121 Views
I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM 1104 Views
Don't forget Poofta!! - 08/09/2010 10:57:00 PM 900 Views
Heh, I had forgotten that. - 08/09/2010 10:58:53 PM 1149 Views
She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol - 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM 1453 Views
Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM 1286 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:39:52 PM 1507 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:43:55 PM 1120 Views
mm, i doubt that would make people shut up - 08/09/2010 08:44:29 PM 989 Views
A concerted effort would do it... - 08/09/2010 08:47:50 PM 1075 Views
heh, it's pretty cool that everyone came together like that - 08/09/2010 10:52:50 PM 887 Views
"Just because a person is gay, mayor, doesn't mean he is a fag" - 09/09/2010 05:27:50 AM 988 Views
It was a very good game though, wasn't it? *NM* - 09/09/2010 12:56:33 PM 626 Views

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