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Re: Hmm. A tough one for me as there are a few elements to it Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 17/09/2010 04:56:53 PM
In theory, I support her side of it. There are a few big "but"s here though.


I tend to agree with you.

(I said "but"s, not butts!)




1) I think there is a real issue of a religion of convenience. I.e. rather than really following a religion out of belief in it, a group of people are using one as a way of claiming rights by pretending they're part of a religion.


I don't know how you draw that distinction or what criteria you place on it though. And arguably, there are plenty of people in major mainstream religions for whom it is a religion of convenience and not something they follow out of belief in it

2) The religious requirements - I don't think it should cover a preference anyway, which is what the nose ring sounds like. It should only cover something required by the religion like a Sikh's dagger etc.


So if this is not a religious requirement you would not be on her side of it? I was trying to tell from the picture in the article whether her mom was wearing one or not

3) Frankly, I'm kind of wary of a religion that involves under age people being pierced, tattoed or physically altered in a way that isn't for medical reasons. That sort of think should be for them to get when they are considered to be old enough to make adult choices. So I'd ban the thing anyway on those grounds


LOL, I think I would too. Along with those religions where parents keep minor children from receiving proper medical treatment.
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Curious to hear your thoughts on this. Sareitha Sedai - 17/09/2010 04:00:52 PM 990 Views
Also Sareitha Sedai - 17/09/2010 04:11:12 PM 437 Views
Hmm. A tough one for me as there are a few elements to it snoopcester - 17/09/2010 04:36:49 PM 480 Views
Re: Hmm. A tough one for me as there are a few elements to it Sareitha Sedai - 17/09/2010 04:56:53 PM 538 Views
Re: Hmm. A tough one for me as there are a few elements to it snoopcester - 17/09/2010 05:11:16 PM 520 Views
Re: Hmm. A tough one for me as there are a few elements to it Francie - 17/09/2010 05:16:55 PM 458 Views
Yes *NM* snoopcester - 18/09/2010 12:47:38 AM 183 Views
How do they handle a Sikh's dagger? Gher - 17/09/2010 05:26:29 PM 447 Views
i doubt it's something that'll come up LadyLorraine - 17/09/2010 05:30:00 PM 427 Views
I believe they do that anyway. It's not as if they ever take it out, anyway. *NM* Legolas - 17/09/2010 05:33:32 PM 179 Views
ah fair enough then. *NM* LadyLorraine - 17/09/2010 05:36:00 PM 184 Views
Not in the US, no. Gher - 19/09/2010 12:40:37 AM 444 Views
no idea. I referred to the US because that's where the article took place, though. *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/09/2010 04:12:22 AM 181 Views
Actually, Wikipedia says it has come up in the US and Canada both. Legolas - 19/09/2010 03:28:40 PM 421 Views
this is not a religouis issue random thoughts - 17/09/2010 06:07:44 PM 489 Views
Like *NM* Francie - 18/09/2010 12:05:11 AM 192 Views
Short answer would be yes... but I'll wait for you to prove snoopcester - 18/09/2010 12:32:39 AM 489 Views
you can't "prove" evolution but I would guess you still think it is true random thoughts - 18/09/2010 04:36:45 PM 438 Views
I think she's a little nuts, but kicking her out of school seems silly. *NM* Zalis - 17/09/2010 05:06:54 PM 202 Views
Agree on the little nuts. But... Sareitha Sedai - 17/09/2010 05:29:14 PM 456 Views
Concerning this Mistborn(again?) religion... Zalis - 17/09/2010 07:14:23 PM 432 Views
My thoughs on this Maria - 17/09/2010 05:18:36 PM 440 Views
I'm not exactly sure what I feel about the religious connotations LadyLorraine - 17/09/2010 05:27:16 PM 414 Views
A school must enforce its rules. Aemon - 17/09/2010 07:21:09 PM 424 Views
I live on the outskirts of Raleigh. First thought: "I bet this happened in Johnston County." Aemon - 17/09/2010 06:48:41 PM 439 Views
Sareitha Sedai - 17/09/2010 07:19:49 PM 507 Views
Headline: "Supreme executive, judicial, and legislative powers to be vested in Aemon, and Sareitha." Aemon - 17/09/2010 07:31:49 PM 447 Views
You have to admit it has a nice ring to it. Sareitha Sedai - 17/09/2010 07:32:56 PM 438 Views
When I come to power, I'll be sure to remember you both for executive positions. Elaine - 20/09/2010 01:51:08 PM 499 Views
I think dress codes, in general, are absurd in any case, so... *NM* beetnemesis - 17/09/2010 10:48:11 PM 171 Views
It's clearly bullshit, all the angsty hand-wringing aside. *NM* LiterateDog - 17/09/2010 11:17:01 PM 182 Views
a few thoughts ranagrande - 17/09/2010 11:52:02 PM 450 Views
Could anyone please explain the reasoning behind banning body piercings? Tashmere - 18/09/2010 12:00:00 AM 458 Views
schoolsprobably have lots of rules you don't like random thoughts - 18/09/2010 12:36:24 AM 457 Views
It wasn't the end to the world but it did instill a disrespect for arbitrary rules. Leg warmers were Tashmere - 18/09/2010 01:11:36 AM 478 Views
I still don't understand the leg warmer thing random thoughts - 18/09/2010 03:02:12 PM 448 Views
Utter crap, religion of convenience, has anyone looked at their twisted little doctrine? Isaac - 18/09/2010 12:10:15 AM 444 Views
It seems obvious to me that they are fetishists hiding behind religion. Lame pussies. *NM* everynametaken - 18/09/2010 04:29:10 AM 182 Views
what a crock of horseshit damookster - 18/09/2010 03:20:59 AM 480 Views
No, that is horseshit! LiterateDog - 18/09/2010 03:24:58 AM 431 Views
hey... damookster - 18/09/2010 03:27:24 AM 463 Views
I think that this is an abuse of the free exercise clause. Tom - 18/09/2010 03:08:39 PM 434 Views
I agree with you Sareitha Sedai - 18/09/2010 03:20:53 PM 443 Views
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