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Well... jh Send a noteboard - 24/09/2010 10:50:09 PM
Not really all that odd. Before WW2, german was the first foreign language taught here, but hey, it was deemed more appropriate to change to English. And then with most foreign movies and tv series coming from england or the us, it is fairly natural that it has kept it's dominance.

I mean in Europe as a whole, including places where it's not nearly as logical - and places which have their movies and TV series dubbed, I might add.


The places where it is not as logical are typically years behind... they caught up with the trend later, possibly as a result of the trend. also, the places where they do the dubbing have citizens who speak appalling english. Swedish english might not be perfect, but it is 10 times better than german, in general.

What is more interesting is that we here experience a marginalisation of languages such as german and french as they lose their relevance in the world today. there has been a shift towards eastern languages since they are perceived as cooler, and more useful. Also, spanish has taken a larger role, mainly because it is deemed a more simple language to learn.

*nods* Here too, to some extent, but not yet in the schools because French and German are national languages of Belgium. But if you look at the enrollment in language courses for students and adults, the dominance of Spanish is getting ridiculous. In my language schools, there were iirc fourteen classes (of about 25 students each) in the first year of Spanish, and I think three or four of German. And indeed, in university the study of Chinese and Japanese is going through the roof.


Well, the effect is larger here since there are really no rational reasons to learn german or french... But russian is on the rise, for example.
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Answering the survey myself... - 24/09/2010 02:04:39 PM 947 Views
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We have a similar situation in Belgium. - 24/09/2010 02:32:25 PM 848 Views
It is all double dutch to me - 24/09/2010 02:41:41 PM 905 Views
Hah! - 24/09/2010 06:58:49 PM 1012 Views
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That is rather sad to say the least. - 24/09/2010 04:15:32 PM 1113 Views
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That's just Paris being a city of nasty people. - 24/09/2010 06:32:40 PM 1057 Views
I never noticed that - 24/09/2010 07:05:18 PM 957 Views
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I didn't mean just in Sweden, or Scandinavia. - 24/09/2010 04:19:32 PM 986 Views
Well... - 24/09/2010 10:50:09 PM 894 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 05:47:09 PM 982 Views
Interesting. - 24/09/2010 06:04:30 PM 909 Views
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American who just got a C+ on a French quiz reporting in. - 24/09/2010 06:09:31 PM 1004 Views
What was it on? - 24/09/2010 06:22:35 PM 920 Views
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Real quick - 25/09/2010 12:03:51 PM 1018 Views
Self-study can be worth as much as formal classroom study, I suppose - 25/09/2010 03:43:14 PM 1017 Views
Certainly it can. - 26/09/2010 12:35:56 PM 1013 Views
You know, gen eds typically include a language. *NM* - 26/09/2010 07:28:57 PM 414 Views
Yes, but other things as well. - 26/09/2010 08:08:20 PM 936 Views
Interesting - 27/09/2010 03:14:00 AM 1146 Views
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You don't have to prove it's economically valid? - 27/09/2010 08:31:46 PM 1044 Views
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The amount of German is more surprising. - 25/09/2010 07:55:29 PM 833 Views
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They should have asked about second languages rather than foreign languages. - 26/09/2010 11:34:27 AM 949 Views
Aye, they should have. - 26/09/2010 12:26:51 PM 1039 Views
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