Active Users:774 Time:31/07/2026 01:06:18 PM
Well... jh Send a noteboard - 24/09/2010 10:50:09 PM
Not really all that odd. Before WW2, german was the first foreign language taught here, but hey, it was deemed more appropriate to change to English. And then with most foreign movies and tv series coming from england or the us, it is fairly natural that it has kept it's dominance.

I mean in Europe as a whole, including places where it's not nearly as logical - and places which have their movies and TV series dubbed, I might add.


The places where it is not as logical are typically years behind... they caught up with the trend later, possibly as a result of the trend. also, the places where they do the dubbing have citizens who speak appalling english. Swedish english might not be perfect, but it is 10 times better than german, in general.

What is more interesting is that we here experience a marginalisation of languages such as german and french as they lose their relevance in the world today. there has been a shift towards eastern languages since they are perceived as cooler, and more useful. Also, spanish has taken a larger role, mainly because it is deemed a more simple language to learn.

*nods* Here too, to some extent, but not yet in the schools because French and German are national languages of Belgium. But if you look at the enrollment in language courses for students and adults, the dominance of Spanish is getting ridiculous. In my language schools, there were iirc fourteen classes (of about 25 students each) in the first year of Spanish, and I think three or four of German. And indeed, in university the study of Chinese and Japanese is going through the roof.


Well, the effect is larger here since there are really no rational reasons to learn german or french... But russian is on the rise, for example.
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world" - Calvin.
Reply to message
/Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe (and elsewhere) - 24/09/2010 01:37:42 PM 1554 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 01:49:32 PM 939 Views
Answering the survey myself... - 24/09/2010 02:04:39 PM 962 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 02:10:57 PM 947 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 02:20:45 PM 1094 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 02:24:01 PM 954 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 02:14:52 PM 997 Views
We have a similar situation in Belgium. - 24/09/2010 02:32:25 PM 863 Views
It is all double dutch to me - 24/09/2010 02:41:41 PM 927 Views
Hah! - 24/09/2010 06:58:49 PM 1030 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 03:32:09 PM 892 Views
That is rather sad to say the least. - 24/09/2010 04:15:32 PM 1129 Views
Indeed - 24/09/2010 06:23:52 PM 932 Views
That's just Paris being a city of nasty people. - 24/09/2010 06:32:40 PM 1073 Views
I never noticed that - 24/09/2010 07:05:18 PM 976 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 04:00:04 PM 1014 Views
I didn't mean just in Sweden, or Scandinavia. - 24/09/2010 04:19:32 PM 1003 Views
Well... - 24/09/2010 10:50:09 PM 913 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 05:47:09 PM 999 Views
Interesting. - 24/09/2010 06:04:30 PM 927 Views
Re: Interesting. - 24/09/2010 06:42:02 PM 1072 Views
Re: Interesting. - 24/09/2010 07:05:44 PM 970 Views
Re: Interesting. - 24/09/2010 07:21:24 PM 1092 Views
Re: Interesting. - 24/09/2010 08:18:30 PM 959 Views
Re: Interesting. - 25/09/2010 08:02:30 PM 1022 Views
American who just got a C+ on a French quiz reporting in. - 24/09/2010 06:09:31 PM 1034 Views
What was it on? - 24/09/2010 06:22:35 PM 938 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe - 24/09/2010 06:16:22 PM 895 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe (and elsewhere) - 24/09/2010 09:38:05 PM 1078 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe (and elsewhere) - 25/09/2010 05:49:05 AM 1081 Views
Real quick - 25/09/2010 12:03:51 PM 1035 Views
Self-study can be worth as much as formal classroom study, I suppose - 25/09/2010 03:43:14 PM 1036 Views
Certainly it can. - 26/09/2010 12:35:56 PM 1030 Views
You know, gen eds typically include a language. *NM* - 26/09/2010 07:28:57 PM 422 Views
Yes, but other things as well. - 26/09/2010 08:08:20 PM 953 Views
Interesting - 27/09/2010 03:14:00 AM 1164 Views
Re: Interesting - 27/09/2010 11:04:37 AM 1051 Views
You don't have to prove it's economically valid? - 27/09/2010 08:31:46 PM 1061 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe (and elsewhere) - 25/09/2010 04:54:40 PM 1160 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe (and elsewhere) - 25/09/2010 07:38:29 PM 1084 Views
The amount of German is more surprising. - 25/09/2010 07:55:29 PM 848 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe (and elsewhere) - 26/09/2010 12:07:19 AM 1117 Views
They should have asked about second languages rather than foreign languages. - 26/09/2010 11:34:27 AM 962 Views
Aye, they should have. - 26/09/2010 12:26:51 PM 1054 Views
Re: /Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe (and elsewhere) - 27/09/2010 03:18:30 PM 1014 Views

Reply to Message