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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
I infer that there are substances that I will never observe but some other conscious being has or will. And I imagine that God observes all, but maybe even he enjoys the occasional emergent surprise. If any of that fits with what you mean by "spiritual substance," then yes.

But not in any animist sense. I don't believe that souls exist as a special substance, for instance. I am just one of many examples of awesome physical programming.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 1035 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 347 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 336 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 334 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 876 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 784 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 812 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 724 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 791 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 786 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 929 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 336 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 792 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 778 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 819 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 851 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 325 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 769 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 786 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 360 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 333 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 364 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 337 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 333 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 346 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 335 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 692 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 315 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 331 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 320 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 771 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 756 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 786 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 825 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 741 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 732 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 785 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 350 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 305 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 988 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 702 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 915 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 886 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 941 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 728 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 834 Views
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