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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
I infer that there are substances that I will never observe but some other conscious being has or will. And I imagine that God observes all, but maybe even he enjoys the occasional emergent surprise. If any of that fits with what you mean by "spiritual substance," then yes.

But not in any animist sense. I don't believe that souls exist as a special substance, for instance. I am just one of many examples of awesome physical programming.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 1009 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 327 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 317 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 314 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 844 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 754 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 778 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 696 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 762 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 757 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 896 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 318 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 764 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 752 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 789 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 823 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 305 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 737 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 758 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 336 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 314 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 316 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 319 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 316 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 330 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 320 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 662 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 297 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 316 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 299 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 737 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 721 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 754 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 797 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 713 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 698 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 756 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 316 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 287 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 964 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 666 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 879 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 855 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 912 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 698 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 806 Views
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