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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
I infer that there are substances that I will never observe but some other conscious being has or will. And I imagine that God observes all, but maybe even he enjoys the occasional emergent surprise. If any of that fits with what you mean by "spiritual substance," then yes.

But not in any animist sense. I don't believe that souls exist as a special substance, for instance. I am just one of many examples of awesome physical programming.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 999 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 319 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 309 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 306 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 829 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 741 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 758 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 682 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 746 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 741 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 885 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 309 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 749 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 735 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 771 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 807 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 297 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 721 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 745 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 329 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 307 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 308 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 312 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 309 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 319 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 311 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 650 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 287 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 307 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 292 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 720 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 705 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 739 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 777 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 697 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 681 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 739 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 301 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 278 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 951 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 652 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 861 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 840 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 894 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 685 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 792 Views
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