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aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM
There are a lot of aspects of humanity that neither psychology or biology can necessarily explain (at least at the moment). A "soul", so to speak, would explain this. Why can we not percieve our own souls? Maybe we can, but it's entirely unconscious. This would explain gut feelings that. Or maybe we simply cannot perceive it. After all, without the aid of technology, we cannot perceive the action of our cells or their atoms, but it is fact they exist.

I am mostly just stirring up the water here :P I happen to really like musing and guessing and thinking about this subject.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 892 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 275 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 253 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 256 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 687 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 625 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 599 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 567 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 627 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 628 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 758 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 257 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 625 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 611 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 652 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 658 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 248 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 577 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 639 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 281 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 257 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 242 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 262 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 256 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 270 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 257 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 528 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 241 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 258 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 240 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 595 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 585 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 619 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 644 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 571 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 551 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 607 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 239 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 233 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 831 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 535 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 718 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 712 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 751 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 540 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 647 Views
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