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You do realize.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 03/11/2010 02:49:16 PM
Really?

I'm happy they passed the health care reform, what I'm not happy about is how they treated the abortion issue. (Abortion isn't just abortion, it's also care for miscarriages. Or removing a dead fetus, which is actually where most of the pictures of "dead babies" come from. If it's got black spots or is wrinkled, it died in the womb.) As well as general family-friendly policies.


That one of the abortion procedures is to put a highly saline solution into the placenta. That kills the baby (turning it black spotted/wrinkled) and that is what you're seeing in those pictures. And contrary to your belief....abortion is abortion. Removing fetal tissue due to a misscariage isn't abortion. Its not considered one either per the law or medical practice. Why? Because there is no heartbeat. The presence of a heartbeat (typically denoting life, except in this case) puts the procedure into another catagory.

Something that you have aboslutely no right to force me to pay for.

~Jeordam
ex-Admin at wotmania (all things wot & art galleries)
Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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