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it is exactly the same thing you're just trying to dance around the issue moondog Send a noteboard - 05/11/2010 06:31:26 AM
the government limits the type and style of each toy commercial on saturday morning. each cereal commercial is regulated. every single commercial your kid sees on saturday morning has had to pass government regulations because of the psychological and other effects advertising has on children. the government telling fast food places that their meals need to meet certain nutritious guidelines or else they can't sell toys is really not that different than what is already going on with the television side of things.

you still have the right as a parent to feed your kids whatever you want to feed them. however, your kids do not have the right to be materially rewarded for eating whatever crap you put in front of them, especially if that food has an adult dose of non-nutritious components. that's basically all this law does: it stops fast food joints from marketing directly to kids by promising them rewards for eating their shitty food.
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San Francisco Bans The Happy Meal - 04/11/2010 04:00:12 AM 2130 Views
Great. Now I'll never finish my Polly Pocket army. *NM* - 04/11/2010 05:10:26 AM 597 Views
now, they only really banned the toy that comes with the happy meal if it doesn't meet guidelines - 04/11/2010 06:32:46 AM 1336 Views
yup - 04/11/2010 09:23:44 AM 1353 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 04/11/2010 09:36:53 AM 529 Views
Yes *NM* - 04/11/2010 10:59:52 AM 593 Views
the government should not have to right to say how I feed my child - 04/11/2010 01:37:41 PM 1193 Views
I find feeding happy meals to children far more appalling. - 04/11/2010 01:39:13 PM 1123 Views
what you like to eat really isn't the point though - 04/11/2010 02:13:31 PM 1276 Views
I know, I was just saying that McDonald's is crappy, period - 04/11/2010 02:16:19 PM 1122 Views
the government limits the kind of advertising your child sees during saturday morning cartoons - 04/11/2010 03:36:47 PM 1062 Views
that isn't even close to the same thing - 04/11/2010 04:15:09 PM 1200 Views
Don't forget the removal of more and more activity. - 05/11/2010 12:32:03 AM 1027 Views
yeah that is why kids are getting fat - 05/11/2010 04:26:38 AM 1076 Views
wow, ever consider that political leanings have nothing to do with my opinion - 05/11/2010 11:59:15 AM 1249 Views
your the one who wanted to bring your politics into it - 05/11/2010 12:23:08 PM 1109 Views
uhm, what? I said no such thing. - 05/11/2010 12:33:22 PM 1273 Views
maybe I spend to much time arguing with Joel - 05/11/2010 02:20:34 PM 1178 Views
that is likely the case - 05/11/2010 03:26:46 PM 1285 Views
it is exactly the same thing you're just trying to dance around the issue - 05/11/2010 06:31:26 AM 1248 Views
saying something does not make it true - 05/11/2010 12:17:00 PM 1251 Views
what choices are you being denied? - 05/11/2010 02:59:00 PM 1088 Views
well I can't buy my kid a happy meal with toy in it - 05/11/2010 04:43:44 PM 1089 Views
The metric system rocks *NM* - 04/11/2010 09:18:29 AM 738 Views
Good! *NM* - 04/11/2010 09:36:21 AM 725 Views
I wouldn't touch the metric system with a 1.038m pole *NM* - 04/11/2010 10:47:51 AM 720 Views
You mean 3.048m (10 feet) *NM* - 04/11/2010 05:22:58 PM 670 Views
Yes...don't know where I got 1.038m from *NM* - 05/11/2010 01:24:21 AM 683 Views
The law is just fighting a small symptom of a much bigger problem - 04/11/2010 11:24:19 AM 1418 Views
yes - 04/11/2010 11:47:47 AM 1459 Views
make something idiot-proof and we'll just make better idiots... - 05/11/2010 06:33:54 AM 1107 Views
100% agree, in respect to this and other related subjects. - 04/11/2010 01:42:32 PM 1356 Views
why do you think Wendy's is more healthy than McDonalds? - 05/11/2010 04:30:54 AM 1322 Views
it's not MUCH more healthy. - 05/11/2010 12:00:31 PM 1110 Views
I don't think the toy is that big of a draw for kids, really. - 04/11/2010 05:11:10 PM 1155 Views
The toys were a definite draw for mine - 05/11/2010 08:20:05 AM 1199 Views
Perhaps - 05/11/2010 07:41:17 PM 1298 Views
Here in Aus we have fruit bags, and water etc. options for Happy Meals - 04/11/2010 12:32:16 PM 1151 Views
The healthier variety is starting to become more common in kids meals. - 04/11/2010 12:50:44 PM 1271 Views
milk or juice have ALWAYS been options, and every mcdonalds i've been to has offered the apples. *NM* - 04/11/2010 01:36:34 PM 661 Views
Too bad milk and juice are horrible choices too. *NM* - 04/11/2010 10:54:36 PM 746 Views
uhmm, bullshit. - 04/11/2010 11:39:09 PM 1316 Views
Juice is nothing but sugar and milk as healthy is debatable. - 05/11/2010 12:37:34 AM 1303 Views
juice is not just sugar. - 05/11/2010 02:11:12 AM 1269 Views
I'm not talking about juicing vegetables and fresh fruit. - 05/11/2010 03:06:54 AM 1217 Views
no it was not clear. You merely said "Juice" - 05/11/2010 03:16:01 AM 1288 Views
Milk is delicious. And it (when low-fat/skim) isn't actively bad for you. - 05/11/2010 03:33:53 AM 1060 Views
I know, but...just...EW. - 05/11/2010 03:43:49 AM 1363 Views
but it is yummy and you make yummy things out of it - 05/11/2010 02:47:37 PM 1079 Views
I like the yummy foods made, I admit. - 05/11/2010 03:35:28 PM 1110 Views
Agreed, as long as it's treated the right way (i.e. not the American way). *NM* - 05/11/2010 09:56:16 AM 664 Views
Please elaborate. - 05/11/2010 01:27:45 PM 1242 Views
I remember the first time I came to Northern America (Canada, then) and tried drinking milk... - 05/11/2010 04:44:01 PM 1301 Views
You can get UHT milk - 05/11/2010 04:47:53 PM 1135 Views
I think what you describe... - 05/11/2010 05:21:35 PM 1250 Views
Indeed it is. - 05/11/2010 05:49:48 PM 1159 Views
How about the water? - 05/11/2010 06:24:09 PM 1104 Views
No idea... didn't really notice anything there. - 05/11/2010 06:40:16 PM 1226 Views
Tap water in Philly tasted sooo much like chlorine - 08/11/2010 11:43:36 AM 1230 Views
No UHT in Scandinavia, though - 05/11/2010 06:34:17 PM 1261 Views
Oh yeah, that UHT milk is evil. *NM* - 05/11/2010 09:30:35 PM 687 Views
OK. My bad. - 05/11/2010 04:11:53 AM 1369 Views
Re: juice is not just sugar. - 05/11/2010 01:11:06 PM 1172 Views
so what do you think kids should drink? - 05/11/2010 04:28:36 AM 1222 Views
Do this little experiment. Please. - 05/11/2010 12:53:49 PM 1094 Views
that is why my kids drinks milk or water and not juice 99% of time - 05/11/2010 02:03:08 PM 1176 Views
Of course! - 05/11/2010 02:11:35 PM 1288 Views
I am fighting my wife right now over the yogurt in a tube crap - 05/11/2010 02:35:41 PM 1074 Views
Ok did some math. - 05/11/2010 04:35:48 PM 1354 Views
she buys Horizon which is 57 grams 10 of which are sugar - 05/11/2010 05:16:22 PM 1182 Views
I'm with you on this one. *NM* - 05/11/2010 12:37:59 PM 662 Views
it is - 04/11/2010 02:11:44 PM 1399 Views
This is pretty stupid. - 04/11/2010 02:13:17 PM 1297 Views
That part was a bit of hyperbole, I'm afraid. *NM* - 04/11/2010 03:01:52 PM 691 Views
Not very much! - 04/11/2010 03:04:58 PM 1163 Views
And - 04/11/2010 03:17:34 PM 1335 Views
Re: And - 04/11/2010 03:27:12 PM 1306 Views
You know what? - 04/11/2010 03:35:54 PM 1040 Views
I feel so exploited now - 04/11/2010 03:31:26 PM 1470 Views
*dons detective hat* Very interesting... - 04/11/2010 03:35:08 PM 1061 Views
Re: *dons detective hat* Very interesting... - 04/11/2010 03:57:04 PM 1301 Views
Another hint - 04/11/2010 04:02:54 PM 1207 Views
Re: Another hint - 04/11/2010 04:23:28 PM 1276 Views
Ah, Republicans and sex scandals. They go together like beer and kebabs, - 04/11/2010 04:29:19 PM 1102 Views
So, that would make him mexican? *NM* - 04/11/2010 06:54:03 PM 669 Views
Hmm - 04/11/2010 04:27:00 PM 1138 Views
40 hours? Really? - 06/11/2010 06:59:57 PM 1248 Views
Wow. *NM* - 04/11/2010 11:56:45 PM 669 Views
No kidding. *NM* - 05/11/2010 03:08:20 AM 644 Views
All we need is for someone else to pay for our national defense and we can do it *NM* - 04/11/2010 04:16:28 PM 737 Views
That makes me even less likely to enjoy those last 8 hours. - 09/11/2010 03:12:53 PM 1136 Views
They should ban something which may have effect instead. - 04/11/2010 02:27:05 PM 1315 Views
The toys do have effect. It's a positive reinforcer to eating the meal. - 04/11/2010 10:57:49 PM 1058 Views
So it's back to being a small cheeseburger meal then? *NM* - 04/11/2010 02:30:34 PM 701 Views
What a bunch of morons. - 04/11/2010 06:45:31 PM 1342 Views
these are the same people who keep sending Pelosi back year after year *NM* - 04/11/2010 06:49:16 PM 549 Views
I accidentally posted this in the wrong spot. I reposted below to the original thread. - 04/11/2010 11:22:32 PM 1261 Views
Re: - 05/11/2010 12:02:41 AM 1111 Views
I'm not sure what your point is. - 05/11/2010 12:42:14 AM 1065 Views
That fast food is not inherently bad/unhealthy. - 05/11/2010 01:16:51 AM 1272 Views
Many here don't seem to understand the purpose of the toy. - 05/11/2010 12:43:27 AM 1314 Views
I think you should assume we're not idiots - 05/11/2010 02:05:51 AM 1141 Views
I never said anybody was an idiot. - 05/11/2010 04:09:51 AM 1454 Views
kids of the happy meal age should not be deciding what they get to eat - 05/11/2010 04:37:43 AM 1353 Views
This. - 05/11/2010 02:00:32 PM 1077 Views
Re: kids of the happy meal age should not be deciding what they get to eat - 05/11/2010 06:27:21 PM 1236 Views
Your overly-simplified psychology is wrong - 05/11/2010 01:58:55 PM 1287 Views
raw milk is banned because of the potential of illness. - 05/11/2010 06:20:01 PM 1220 Views
You miss my point (or helped me make it) - 05/11/2010 07:58:59 PM 1112 Views
because raw milk SALE AND DISTRIBUTION does not only affect the individual. - 05/11/2010 08:37:10 PM 1401 Views
Excuse me, I have a degree in psychology and I have oversimplified nothing. - 05/11/2010 06:42:24 PM 1372 Views
Like others have said... - 05/11/2010 08:03:09 PM 1312 Views
Jesus Christ. Are you daft or what? - 05/11/2010 11:04:41 PM 1095 Views
silly rabbit, science is for suckers!! - 06/11/2010 12:28:31 AM 1186 Views
psychology is a pseudoscience - 10/11/2010 07:13:52 PM 1896 Views
Well - 06/11/2010 07:27:51 PM 1387 Views
As a mother of a Wongy Junior all of 9 years... - 08/11/2010 03:07:00 AM 1381 Views
if they wanted to have a real impact they would ban drive throughs *NM* - 05/11/2010 04:39:52 AM 662 Views
My opinion: This is bad form. - 05/11/2010 01:18:25 PM 1210 Views
oO but that's what's so AMAZINGLY DELICIOUS about soda.. - 06/11/2010 02:02:45 AM 1236 Views
Yet again government not letting people make their own decisions - 10/11/2010 03:01:15 AM 1357 Views

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