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You know, next time you tell people to not reopen certain debates... Legolas Send a noteboard - 07/11/2010 09:28:21 PM
I don't know Spanish law, but it's not the US, and certainly separation of church and state is not a widely accepted policy in Vatican City. There are many legitimate discussions to be had there, too, since Spain is under no obligation to accept any papal influence over its laws (and as a foreign head of state, whether or not everyone is willing to accept that, there's strong reason NOT to allow his influence over Spanish law). The Pope retains the title of "Christs Vicar on Earth", however, and Roman Catholic canon law is quite explicit on both points. When consecrating a church in a country where profaning a Catholic sacrament is now protected by federal law it would be irresponsible not to comment on the latter.

... you might want to refrain from referring to gay marriage with subjective and biased (and, frankly, ridiculous) terms like "profaning a Catholic sacrament". It's not as if gay marriages, in Spain or elsewhere, take place in Catholic churches or involve the Catholic sacrament of marriage.
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I looked it up for you both. - 09/11/2010 08:38:55 PM 1067 Views
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Now that is the way to protest against the Pope. I wish people had thought of that here. *NM* - 07/11/2010 09:02:51 PM 459 Views
The girl on girl kissing? Hell, yeah. - 07/11/2010 09:23:17 PM 1027 Views
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dang. how big and fancy is this cathedral going to be? *NM* - 07/11/2010 09:28:44 PM 543 Views
Uh yeah because Franco was worse than the communists.... - 08/11/2010 03:43:55 AM 1020 Views
Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top. - 08/11/2010 10:17:10 AM 1101 Views
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Ah, classic communist logic. - 09/11/2010 08:17:48 PM 1009 Views
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It's the wrong question to ask, however. - 13/11/2010 10:53:00 PM 1244 Views
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Again: The Pope doesn't oppress anyone. - 08/11/2010 03:40:19 AM 1118 Views
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I would too. - 08/11/2010 05:08:37 AM 1022 Views
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This is funny. - 09/11/2010 08:42:52 PM 932 Views

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