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Again: The Pope doesn't oppress anyone. Dragonsoul Send a noteboard - 08/11/2010 03:40:19 AM
Being Catholic is a choice. If what you believe goes against Catholic teaching do not be Catholic.

The Catholic Church isn't oppressing any group since people can choose whether or not they want to be Catholic. That's like me saying I'm being oppressed in the Uottawa Italian Club because I don't like the rules of the club. Well, at any time I can leave. Slavery is oppression. What happens to women and homosexuals in countries like Iran is oppression.

Do you think we'd describe American slavery (or any slavery for that matter) as oppression if at any time the slave can simply choose not to be a slave anymore? Of course not, to suggest otherwise would be silly.

If you're gay and Catholic and don't like the rules of the Church, there are plenty of other churches that would be happy to have you. If you're gay and you follow the rules of the Catholic Church, I'm happy to call you brother.
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Ah, classic communist logic. - 09/11/2010 08:17:48 PM 1009 Views
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It's the wrong question to ask, however. - 13/11/2010 10:53:00 PM 1244 Views
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Again: The Pope doesn't oppress anyone. - 08/11/2010 03:40:19 AM 1118 Views
Awesome, except he's attacking people leaving, too. *NM* - 08/11/2010 04:30:02 AM 482 Views
I would too. - 08/11/2010 05:08:37 AM 1022 Views
Yes, we know you would. *NM* - 08/11/2010 04:35:54 PM 520 Views
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