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Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel Send a noteboard - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM
Unfortunately it's not the kind of question I can answer while racing to bed, other than to say, "substance" isn't the word I'd use, since it has material connotations "spiritual" precludes. Hence your philosophy books referencing "matter" the spiritual is not material, which is why the serious answers you're getting from materialists basically boil down to "no. " There's a conceit that says anything that exists is material, but that's far from given, and there's a great deal of evidence (such as this discussion) to the contrary. But any more will have to wait until at least tomorrow or the next day; I have to leave for work again in 7.5 hours.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 959 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 304 Views
No *NM* - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 286 Views
not a chance *NM* - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 290 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 782 Views
No *NM* - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 288 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 701 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 691 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 731 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 748 Views
No. *NM* - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 281 Views
define "spiritual'. - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 660 Views
Rum. - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 703 Views
YES! *NM* - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 312 Views
How are we not married? *NM* - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 289 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 288 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 295 Views
Timing *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 288 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 304 Views
Your Face. *NM* - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 291 Views
My Achilles face! - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 609 Views
No *NM* - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 270 Views
No *NM* - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 291 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 275 Views
Substance? - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 674 Views
Yeah, boobs. - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 660 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 689 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 735 Views
Sorry. - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 650 Views
Re: Sorry. - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 627 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 690 Views
Nicely put. *NM* - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 268 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 263 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 906 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 608 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 806 Views
One little correction - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 789 Views
Nay. - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 633 Views
Re: Nay. - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 744 Views

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