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I try to steer clear of personal attacks. Joel Send a noteboard - 11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM
Sorry but the constant personal attacks on people like Palin do qualify as ad hominem. I am not cliaming this latest slnder aginst her is an ad hominem attack simplt pointing out hat the very people pissing thier panties over tone are the same ones who fill justified to make perosnal attacks.

Sorry I refuse to have any discussion with you that covers 60 politics.

Unfortunately, identifying wtf you're talking about when taking issue with something they've DONE isn't a personal attack. If you're not claiming the latest accusations are ad hominems you probably shouldn't use the term in reference to them. ;)

The time frame was merely illustrating that, whatever their other (many) faults, liberals seldom if ever condemn conservatives simply for BEING conservatives. Yet while Democratic leaders have been trying to move the party right since the late '80s Republican leaders have been arguing liberalism is tantamount to treason even longer (hence McCarthyism, whose creator the far right is busily trying to "rehabilitate" in a way that would make Stalin proud). The last Republican President told us he was "a consensus builder" and "a uniter, not a divider" but after exploiting Ted Kennedys desperation to pass SOME kind of education reform he blithely cherry picked which parts of the resultant law to implement. Thus the spectacle of the loyal opposition begging the President for SIX YEARS to fund his own bill, while his VP accused them of aiding terrorism and responded to greetings on the Senate floor with "Go f--k yourself". If you want to be non-partisan, instead of reaching across the aisle while never budging your feet, try actually spending some time there and you may find out there are actual HUMAN BEINGS on the other side who love their country every bit as much as you do.

Just so we're crystal clear, the litany of rancor above is a chronicle of ACTIONS, not PEOPLE, though obviously the actions were taken by people.
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The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel - 10/01/2011 04:02:29 AM 1702 Views
The people politicizing this are idiots. - 10/01/2011 04:44:37 AM 941 Views
Can't argue with that. - 10/01/2011 08:05:32 AM 927 Views
Nothing to argue with there. *NM* - 10/01/2011 05:04:49 AM 354 Views
I do agree it's not her fault; she is a non-entity. - 10/01/2011 12:38:24 PM 869 Views
I agree. *NM* - 10/01/2011 03:41:30 PM 525 Views
The NYT and liberal media have created a climate of stupidity - 10/01/2011 05:47:29 PM 957 Views
Pot, Kettle. I think you two should discuss your color. - 10/01/2011 09:26:05 PM 1005 Views
nice try but no - 10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM 913 Views
Close your eyes and fill your ears all you want... - 10/01/2011 10:51:45 PM 870 Views
that is hoot coming from the chicken little party - 11/01/2011 02:17:37 PM 895 Views
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...." - 10/01/2011 11:53:10 PM 1155 Views
no you are just wearing Danny's blinders - 11/01/2011 02:15:46 PM 1000 Views
I try to steer clear of personal attacks. - 11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM 899 Views
I try to make my point clear and I can't help if you skip them - 11/01/2011 05:02:41 PM 909 Views
I didn't skip your points, I disputed them. - 11/01/2011 05:51:10 PM 892 Views
you keep claiming both sides but you fail to offer any support - 11/01/2011 06:00:41 PM 925 Views
Not so; you choose not to see the supporting arguments. - 11/01/2011 10:21:09 PM 863 Views
repeating the same claim is not the same as supporting it - 11/01/2011 11:36:52 PM 804 Views
Those who have accused specific people or groups will most likely have to backtrack and apologize. - 10/01/2011 06:48:33 PM 1053 Views
they will neither back track or apologize - 10/01/2011 07:54:54 PM 908 Views
I don't really think the NYT has crossed that line I was talking about. - 10/01/2011 09:54:36 PM 920 Views
not sure where you draw your line but this crosses mine - 10/01/2011 10:11:04 PM 1028 Views
Yes, well, Krugman is Krugman. - 10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM 866 Views
You see to be arguing we should assume his political views were created by the politcal climate - 11/01/2011 03:03:15 PM 1098 Views
Indeed I am. - 11/01/2011 06:18:56 PM 917 Views
wasn't pim fortuyn a right winger though? - 11/01/2011 04:33:26 PM 827 Views
Um, yes, that was pretty much the point I was making. - 11/01/2011 06:22:06 PM 923 Views
Was there anyhting besides his stance on immigration to support the argument he was far right? - 11/01/2011 06:31:05 PM 1052 Views
Yes, though it's true that is the key part. - 11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM 1034 Views
can one posistion define you as being far right or far left? - 11/01/2011 08:23:18 PM 954 Views
One single position? I wouldn't know, I can't think of any examples. - 11/01/2011 08:41:58 PM 1008 Views
yes you did - 11/01/2011 11:40:50 PM 1120 Views
ok i get it now - 12/01/2011 02:33:48 AM 885 Views
... cut both ways because soulless opportunism knows no creed: - 10/01/2011 09:46:31 PM 956 Views
They probably wouldn't say much because it really doesn't show much - 10/01/2011 09:58:46 PM 831 Views
It really doesn't show that he has "left leanings". - 10/01/2011 10:07:48 PM 948 Views
Well they call him a liberal and like it or not the Nazi movement was an extreme form of socialism - 10/01/2011 10:22:04 PM 1054 Views
Deep sigh. - 10/01/2011 10:34:33 PM 997 Views
well we are talking about the US right and left not the European one - 11/01/2011 01:11:30 PM 913 Views
Actually, I believe we were talking about the Nazi right or left. - 11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM 997 Views
wow I really need to stop posting from my i-phone an you deserve a cookie for being able to follow - 11/01/2011 07:48:35 PM 1116 Views
A thousand times no. - 11/01/2011 10:38:19 PM 1118 Views
Thank you. - 12/01/2011 07:07:14 PM 995 Views
as for how they want to use this - 12/01/2011 07:35:12 PM 1049 Views
Liberal college professors didn't call the nazis far right, people who lived under Nazis did. - 10/01/2011 10:56:33 PM 1209 Views
If demoniizing your opponet makes your a fscist then you have made my argument for me - 11/01/2011 01:25:51 PM 1037 Views
In a word, no. - 11/01/2011 04:29:36 PM 873 Views
really would you like to point to the right trying to use this to demonize the left? - 11/01/2011 05:59:49 PM 891 Views
I already have, irrespective of your inability and/or refusal to see it. - 11/01/2011 09:53:38 PM 948 Views
so point pointing out blood libel is the same as commiting it? - 11/01/2011 11:31:41 PM 1236 Views
I don't know enough about the story to say much save that partisan finger pointing is wrong. - 10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM 1023 Views
First I don't even know who WorldNet is so I see no reasont o defend them - 11/01/2011 01:36:44 PM 900 Views
For someone who doens't know who WND is you sure circled the wagons around them fast. - 11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM 1106 Views
No they are in no way the same - 11/01/2011 05:06:43 PM 876 Views
They're precisely the same in tone. - 11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM 989 Views
the only thing you have proven is that you have zero support for your argument - 11/01/2011 06:36:14 PM 921 Views
Enough. - 11/01/2011 10:18:59 PM 890 Views
your evidience is dribble and if that is the best you can I am sorry - 11/01/2011 11:39:05 PM 879 Views
Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives... - 10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM 1065 Views
Sounds like a plan. - 10/01/2011 11:11:50 PM 963 Views

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