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Yes, though it's true that is the key part. Legolas Send a noteboard - 11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM
Again, the position of a party on the political spectrum isn't defined merely by a straightforward average of all its positions on all issues, but also by where the party puts its own focus, which positions it finds the most important itself. Fortuyn's party and its successors are, by Dutch standards, centrist to moderate right on economic issues, one might probably say - further to the right than most parties, but certainly less far than the mainstream right-wing party VVD. But their economic positions simply aren't that much of a priority to them, so it's fair to base their political positioning primarily on the issues that have the priority in their own eyes.

And then you get to the usual themes: anti-immigration, pro-stronger law enforcement and heavier punishments for criminals, more nationalistic tones, and the like. Those Dutch parties do admittedly have one notable aspect in which they differ from most other far-right parties in Europe, which is that they're fairly left-wing on a range of "ethical" issues, like homosexuality, and rather feminist as well.
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The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel - 10/01/2011 04:02:29 AM 1800 Views
The people politicizing this are idiots. - 10/01/2011 04:44:37 AM 1040 Views
Can't argue with that. - 10/01/2011 08:05:32 AM 1023 Views
Nothing to argue with there. *NM* - 10/01/2011 05:04:49 AM 399 Views
I do agree it's not her fault; she is a non-entity. - 10/01/2011 12:38:24 PM 979 Views
I agree. *NM* - 10/01/2011 03:41:30 PM 588 Views
The NYT and liberal media have created a climate of stupidity - 10/01/2011 05:47:29 PM 1049 Views
Pot, Kettle. I think you two should discuss your color. - 10/01/2011 09:26:05 PM 1103 Views
nice try but no - 10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM 1022 Views
Close your eyes and fill your ears all you want... - 10/01/2011 10:51:45 PM 981 Views
that is hoot coming from the chicken little party - 11/01/2011 02:17:37 PM 1010 Views
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...." - 10/01/2011 11:53:10 PM 1254 Views
no you are just wearing Danny's blinders - 11/01/2011 02:15:46 PM 1090 Views
I try to steer clear of personal attacks. - 11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM 1003 Views
I try to make my point clear and I can't help if you skip them - 11/01/2011 05:02:41 PM 1009 Views
I didn't skip your points, I disputed them. - 11/01/2011 05:51:10 PM 1001 Views
you keep claiming both sides but you fail to offer any support - 11/01/2011 06:00:41 PM 1013 Views
Not so; you choose not to see the supporting arguments. - 11/01/2011 10:21:09 PM 1004 Views
repeating the same claim is not the same as supporting it - 11/01/2011 11:36:52 PM 893 Views
Those who have accused specific people or groups will most likely have to backtrack and apologize. - 10/01/2011 06:48:33 PM 1144 Views
they will neither back track or apologize - 10/01/2011 07:54:54 PM 1002 Views
I don't really think the NYT has crossed that line I was talking about. - 10/01/2011 09:54:36 PM 1016 Views
not sure where you draw your line but this crosses mine - 10/01/2011 10:11:04 PM 1126 Views
Yes, well, Krugman is Krugman. - 10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM 960 Views
You see to be arguing we should assume his political views were created by the politcal climate - 11/01/2011 03:03:15 PM 1199 Views
Indeed I am. - 11/01/2011 06:18:56 PM 1014 Views
wasn't pim fortuyn a right winger though? - 11/01/2011 04:33:26 PM 920 Views
Um, yes, that was pretty much the point I was making. - 11/01/2011 06:22:06 PM 1033 Views
Was there anyhting besides his stance on immigration to support the argument he was far right? - 11/01/2011 06:31:05 PM 1149 Views
Yes, though it's true that is the key part. - 11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM 1143 Views
can one posistion define you as being far right or far left? - 11/01/2011 08:23:18 PM 1077 Views
One single position? I wouldn't know, I can't think of any examples. - 11/01/2011 08:41:58 PM 1095 Views
yes you did - 11/01/2011 11:40:50 PM 1206 Views
ok i get it now - 12/01/2011 02:33:48 AM 990 Views
... cut both ways because soulless opportunism knows no creed: - 10/01/2011 09:46:31 PM 1059 Views
They probably wouldn't say much because it really doesn't show much - 10/01/2011 09:58:46 PM 921 Views
It really doesn't show that he has "left leanings". - 10/01/2011 10:07:48 PM 1037 Views
Well they call him a liberal and like it or not the Nazi movement was an extreme form of socialism - 10/01/2011 10:22:04 PM 1144 Views
Deep sigh. - 10/01/2011 10:34:33 PM 1088 Views
well we are talking about the US right and left not the European one - 11/01/2011 01:11:30 PM 1012 Views
Actually, I believe we were talking about the Nazi right or left. - 11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM 1095 Views
wow I really need to stop posting from my i-phone an you deserve a cookie for being able to follow - 11/01/2011 07:48:35 PM 1237 Views
A thousand times no. - 11/01/2011 10:38:19 PM 1214 Views
Thank you. - 12/01/2011 07:07:14 PM 1094 Views
as for how they want to use this - 12/01/2011 07:35:12 PM 1154 Views
Liberal college professors didn't call the nazis far right, people who lived under Nazis did. - 10/01/2011 10:56:33 PM 1307 Views
If demoniizing your opponet makes your a fscist then you have made my argument for me - 11/01/2011 01:25:51 PM 1131 Views
In a word, no. - 11/01/2011 04:29:36 PM 964 Views
really would you like to point to the right trying to use this to demonize the left? - 11/01/2011 05:59:49 PM 982 Views
I already have, irrespective of your inability and/or refusal to see it. - 11/01/2011 09:53:38 PM 1041 Views
so point pointing out blood libel is the same as commiting it? - 11/01/2011 11:31:41 PM 1331 Views
I don't know enough about the story to say much save that partisan finger pointing is wrong. - 10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM 1122 Views
First I don't even know who WorldNet is so I see no reasont o defend them - 11/01/2011 01:36:44 PM 1041 Views
For someone who doens't know who WND is you sure circled the wagons around them fast. - 11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM 1205 Views
No they are in no way the same - 11/01/2011 05:06:43 PM 996 Views
They're precisely the same in tone. - 11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM 1078 Views
the only thing you have proven is that you have zero support for your argument - 11/01/2011 06:36:14 PM 1010 Views
Enough. - 11/01/2011 10:18:59 PM 992 Views
your evidience is dribble and if that is the best you can I am sorry - 11/01/2011 11:39:05 PM 982 Views
Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives... - 10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM 1156 Views
Sounds like a plan. - 10/01/2011 11:11:50 PM 1062 Views

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