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Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen Send a noteboard - 23/01/2011 07:19:03 PM
Still, he should be gone by March. Now we are faced with the more conservative Fine Gael, and or the centre-left Labour. Neither party have been overly impressive recently, though my first preference will probably go to Labour.

I was under the impression that there'd almost certainly be a coalition government of those two, but that still remains to be seen, then? Of course, I was also under the impression that Fine Gael was less conservative than Fianna Fail, so shows what I know.


Well, I think every time Fine Gael have been in government, it's been with Labour as a junior partner. This time there is the potential for Labour to get at least on a par with Fine Gael which might change their outlook if a coalition were to form. Also, they have been agreeing on very little recently, other than opposition to the current crowd.

Fine gael are probably more economically liberal, but socially conservative compared to Fianna Fail. They traditonally had a Christian ethos, as opposed to Fianna Fail's republicanism, and had their origins in the pro-treaty side in the irish civil war, while Fianna Fail came from the anti-treaty side.

Still, both parties are reasonably centrist, but prior to the current crisis Fianna fail would have had a broader spectrum of support.

And on a somewhat related topic, I was intrigued to read some foreign news article - NYTimes, I believe - which quoted Gerry Adams about the Irish government crisis, without even so much as a mention of him being in Northern Ireland. How does that work, exactly, the relations between Northern Irish Sinn Fein and its Republic of Ireland counterpart?


He's the president of Sinn fein for both parts. It's the one party. He's technically an MP but has never taken his seat, in line with the Sinn Fein policy. He was an MLA until last year, I believe. He's going to be running for the Dail in this election.
Yes, that must be disconcerting. is there any indication of a solution coming soon, or will it likely be fresh elections?

Oh, I wish it was so simple that it could be solved by fresh elections. Judging by all polls, new elections will only make things even more difficult, not less. To summarize the problem, the largest Flemish party by a mile is a conservative party which wants lower taxes and more independence for the regions, while the largest Francophone party by a mile is a socialistic party, which wants higher taxes and as little change as possible in the way the regions work. Which is proving just as impossible to reconcile as you might think, but according to all polls, new elections would only give more votes to both parties.


That does seem like a difficult situation. Is there much a middle ground between any of the Flemish and Francophone parties other than the largest two? And where do the German speakers fit into that whole configuration?
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Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. - 23/01/2011 06:27:27 PM 1016 Views
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"This is the voice of a life peer" - 28/01/2011 02:18:04 PM 1013 Views
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