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Calling Ireland the new Sodom and Gomorrah, are you? Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/01/2011 06:02:05 PM
Since I like language-learning, I tell you what: find 15 people at this site (you can count me) who are serious about learning Irish and I will study it intensely along with you.

I am certainly interested in learning Irish, and it's not even THAT far down the list of priorities in language learning, but far enough that I doubt I'll get around to it any time soon.
Seriously. I will do it. But only if there are 15 people. Fifteen righteous people to save a language. ;)

Yeah, I doubt I'm going to get to fifteen. :P Or at least to fifteen who are willing to make serious efforts in that direction in the near future. We've only got four Irish people here (and one American residing in Ireland) that I can think of off the top of my head, then there's a few others who would be interested in learning it - Angie, for one - but fifteen, no.
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So the Irish government has basically imploded. Stephen - 23/01/2011 04:47:10 PM 1712 Views
I am now confused Camilla - 23/01/2011 05:34:31 PM 1073 Views
You won't be the only person Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:21:23 PM 980 Views
You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:27:05 PM 1099 Views
Re: You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:34:47 PM 1031 Views
I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:41:34 PM 1007 Views
Re: I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:43:41 PM 951 Views
Those protests were only violent by British standards. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:54:15 PM 1099 Views
Really? Camilla - 24/01/2011 12:03:38 AM 936 Views
But... Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:28:17 PM 994 Views
Re: But... Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:30:39 PM 1242 Views
What protests? Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:26:49 PM 1079 Views
Re: What protests? Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:28:40 PM 926 Views
Re: What protests? Nebhead - 25/01/2011 09:23:17 AM 1068 Views
There's a new objection Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:38:25 AM 989 Views
I didn't object... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:47:11 AM 879 Views
Re: I didn't object... Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:49:36 AM 843 Views
If you look at the bottom of that list... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:58:24 AM 930 Views
And Britain had to live with the Conservative Wilderness for 15 years before it could get there *NM* Roland00 - 24/01/2011 02:43:16 AM 509 Views
Should I start chiming in on Norwegian politics now that I'm here...? Joel - 24/01/2011 12:42:03 AM 964 Views
Why not? Camilla - 24/01/2011 08:49:07 AM 1031 Views
'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Joel - 26/01/2011 01:55:13 AM 1051 Views
Re: 'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Camilla - 26/01/2011 08:42:04 AM 1074 Views
I misconstrued your sarcasm, sorry. Joel - 26/01/2011 10:23:40 AM 1227 Views
That's been a while coming, hasn't it? Cowen seems to be losing it. Legolas - 23/01/2011 05:48:30 PM 1004 Views
Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:27:27 PM 1071 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:33:26 PM 1023 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 07:19:03 PM 1120 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 07:57:05 PM 968 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 09:29:03 PM 1074 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 09:46:20 PM 1036 Views
I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:45:34 PM 992 Views
Re: I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:53:12 PM 986 Views
The part that I find strange is... Tim - 23/01/2011 11:58:27 PM 965 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:45:39 PM 870 Views
I found out something else today which makes it even better. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:37:45 PM 1167 Views
I was reading your post and going "what about the Chiltern Hundreds"? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:44:32 PM 986 Views
Today's news: it got better again! Tim - 26/01/2011 07:51:51 PM 1049 Views
Oh, alternatively we could elevate him to the House of Lords. Tim - 26/01/2011 11:08:44 PM 1005 Views
Awesome idea. Something like "Baron Adams of Londonderry", I'm thinking. *NM* Legolas - 27/01/2011 07:54:26 PM 488 Views
We made his arch-rival a Lord, after all, so it would only be fair. Tim - 28/01/2011 08:26:15 AM 946 Views
"This is the voice of a life peer" Michael - 28/01/2011 02:18:04 PM 1063 Views
Here you go Elaine - 25/01/2011 12:55:33 PM 1100 Views
That's the site I found too. Tim - 25/01/2011 01:25:56 PM 935 Views
Right. Elaine - 25/01/2011 01:42:49 PM 1170 Views
well, the only interesting thing in swedish politics is a wikileaks document and the reactions... jh - 23/01/2011 06:21:00 PM 1059 Views
That's interesting Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:32:05 PM 1020 Views
What is inappropriate about trying to keep out barbaric unskilled people? Tom - 23/01/2011 10:59:53 PM 1030 Views
The inappropriateness is the generalisation in the claim Camilla - 23/01/2011 11:16:52 PM 995 Views
Generalizations are inappropriate when they are disproven by statistics, and appropriate when proven Tom - 24/01/2011 07:33:14 PM 950 Views
I've looked into the statistics a bit more. Tom - 24/01/2011 09:11:52 PM 966 Views
I take it you're talking about the Middle East in its most narrow sense here. Legolas - 24/01/2011 09:56:22 PM 997 Views
... the fact that they are asylum seekers, and their skill certainly shouldn't matter in that case. jh - 24/01/2011 07:08:14 PM 889 Views
Schweden schafft sich ab, eh? Tom - 24/01/2011 07:31:33 PM 1158 Views
Not to mention... ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:55:26 PM 885 Views
ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:46:19 PM 1001 Views
Hopefully they'll stop using Irish officially as a way to cut down on unnecessary costs. Tom - 23/01/2011 10:57:08 PM 945 Views
I'd support that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:26:20 PM 1027 Views
Ironically, if you de-officialised Irish you could get EU money to help preserve it. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:48:14 PM 921 Views
I never realised that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:54:43 PM 947 Views
But why, why? Tom - 24/01/2011 08:35:43 PM 906 Views
Because it's the only thing justifying their insistence they're not British? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:03:54 PM 965 Views
But all language learning should be purely voluntary (after what parents teach their children). Tom - 25/01/2011 03:05:28 AM 941 Views
What, so you don't think students in high school should be taught foreign languages? Legolas - 25/01/2011 06:34:21 PM 969 Views
Irish is the mother tongue of about 7,000-15,000 people at most. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:04:00 AM 1000 Views
Wikipedia says it's more like 40k-80k. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:41:41 PM 1368 Views
And Elaine, Stephen, or any other Irish people here: do feel free to comment. *NM* Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:42:36 PM 490 Views
Inflated statistics from what I've read. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:45:51 PM 910 Views
They might be, indeed. Elaine - 27/01/2011 01:08:09 PM 1153 Views
More to the point, are YOU interested in learning Irish? Tom - 26/01/2011 05:15:18 AM 913 Views
Calling Ireland the new Sodom and Gomorrah, are you? Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:02:05 PM 1058 Views
I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:48:54 PM 1011 Views
Re: I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Legolas - 27/01/2011 08:42:21 PM 892 Views
Presumably because they agree with J.R.R. Tolkien and Tómas Sæmundsson about language's importance. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:16:05 PM 1055 Views
So Australians and New Zealanders are really English then? Austrians are just Germans? Tom - 25/01/2011 03:01:14 AM 1008 Views
I never said I agreed . Tim - 25/01/2011 08:19:11 AM 978 Views
I would suggest that a distinct dialect does the job just as well majander - 25/01/2011 02:23:59 PM 1007 Views
That's a very good point. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:06:32 AM 979 Views
Indeed. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:06:00 PM 1035 Views
The thing is, people who feel really strongly about that usually insist it's a separate language. Tim - 28/01/2011 04:20:57 PM 861 Views
It's really more about having a unique silly costume to wear at Miss Universe pageants. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:09:10 AM 850 Views
You're confusing what we sell to gullible American tourists with what we actually value . *NM* Tim - 28/01/2011 04:15:01 PM 434 Views
What the hell happened to the Celtic Tiger Country? *NM* Blaine - 24/01/2011 05:47:12 AM 562 Views
Thrown away on bling and tat, unfortunately. Elaine - 24/01/2011 01:01:27 PM 882 Views
The Celtic Tiger is dead, Ireland had a GDP contraction of 14% in the last two years. Roland00 - 24/01/2011 01:47:06 PM 967 Views
It's still there, but it aimed a bit too high and got a bit scorched. Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:07:36 PM 854 Views
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