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The carnal nature of the flesh just happens to be the way we're all innately broken. Joel Send a noteboard - 27/01/2011 11:30:09 PM
Or else he believed in the principles, but was too weak to act according to them.

Humans can't will themselves to action, our brains aren't wired that way.


So I will merely say that a large part of the Christian faith focuses on exactly that - resisting the temptations of the flesh.


A large part of Christian Faith is not the resisting of the temptations of the flesh but is instead trying to form a communion with God. Christian Faith recognizes we are all innately broken and nothing we can do can fix that, only by coming to understand that we are innately broken can we establish a relationship with God and thus obtain the Kingdom of Heaven.

You, um, kinda skipped over that part, which is unfortunate, since it demonstrates why what Shannow said is so necessary to what you just said. It's impossible to have a RELATIONship with anyone solely on ones own terms, and doubly wrong to attempt it with ones Maker. Any carnal desire put ahead of God is turning ones back on Him; why would anyone except a fellow human being to accept that kind of "relationship", let alone expect God to do so?
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Ted Haggard Would Be Bisexual If He Was a Hot 21-Year-Old - 27/01/2011 05:01:12 PM 1182 Views
OK *NM* - 27/01/2011 06:10:10 PM 471 Views
Not sure what the point of this post was *NM* - 27/01/2011 06:50:59 PM 435 Views
It was something that made me laugh? - 27/01/2011 06:53:09 PM 704 Views
yeah you were only insulting people's religion, no reason to get worked up. *NM* - 27/01/2011 09:24:55 PM 437 Views
Er, pretty sure just laughing at what one guy said, plus a pun on the word "hard" - 27/01/2011 09:40:29 PM 622 Views
I am an athiest so I don't care - 27/01/2011 10:10:26 PM 689 Views
Re: I am an athiest so I don't care - 27/01/2011 11:10:21 PM 676 Views
bullshit - 28/01/2011 03:54:41 PM 871 Views
Moron. *NM* - 29/01/2011 03:48:35 PM 400 Views
Well put. - 29/01/2011 04:48:00 PM 984 Views
Or he'd still be closeted because of twisted, hateful strains of Christianity. *NM* - 27/01/2011 06:56:04 PM 342 Views
If your religion states homosexuality is wrong, then it is a position of principle... - 27/01/2011 06:59:04 PM 760 Views
Wow, you really don't understand what it is to be human - 27/01/2011 08:51:17 PM 632 Views
I'm sure you'll agree that a religious debate is not really called for here... - 27/01/2011 09:10:38 PM 723 Views
Homosexuality =/= homosexual sex. - 27/01/2011 09:16:50 PM 653 Views
Err...no. - 27/01/2011 09:23:54 PM 885 Views
Re: Err...no. - 27/01/2011 09:42:00 PM 840 Views
You seem to want to argue about what is allowed and what is not allowed... - 27/01/2011 10:08:10 PM 715 Views
So I am curious on your thoughts of Matthew 5:28 *NM* - 27/01/2011 10:30:50 PM 373 Views
What about it? - 28/01/2011 03:26:19 PM 742 Views
not really - 27/01/2011 10:15:32 PM 912 Views
I completely and utterly disagree - 27/01/2011 10:39:10 PM 650 Views
The carnal nature of the flesh just happens to be the way we're all innately broken. - 27/01/2011 11:30:09 PM 807 Views
Replace "Christian Faith" with "hardcore Calvinism" and I'll go away. - 28/01/2011 12:35:36 AM 612 Views
Brush up on your Romans and Corinthians - 28/01/2011 03:30:24 PM 1039 Views
I think that covered it pretty well. - 27/01/2011 11:23:13 PM 784 Views
Is it possible to have faith, but not agree with your church's stance on subjects?. *NM* - 27/01/2011 09:15:14 PM 397 Views
Of course. Faith is a broad concept. But... - 27/01/2011 09:20:54 PM 794 Views
Absolutely. - 27/01/2011 11:17:19 PM 586 Views
Nicely said *NM* - 27/01/2011 11:19:54 PM 400 Views
Agreed. - 28/01/2011 12:26:38 AM 632 Views
Re: Agreed. - 28/01/2011 01:48:22 AM 773 Views
Well, at least you're not disputing the nature of my claim. - 27/01/2011 10:23:24 PM 655 Views
I thought acceptance meant rejecting anything with which you're uncomfortable? - 27/01/2011 11:39:48 PM 803 Views
Don't even know what that means. - 28/01/2011 12:31:23 AM 572 Views
Actually, that first line is my problem with Universalism - 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM 769 Views
"Carnal flesh" is redundant, you know. - 28/01/2011 04:27:30 AM 648 Views
Point of emphasis. - 28/01/2011 05:52:28 AM 763 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 28/01/2011 06:33:55 AM 380 Views
...I can't believe of the three posts, this is the only one with replies - 27/01/2011 09:48:14 PM 565 Views
I read it, if that's any consolation. *NM* - 27/01/2011 10:00:31 PM 402 Views
It is nothing new, there are always people "who protest too much" - 27/01/2011 10:26:49 PM 614 Views
TAHT'S BECAUSE IT'S GAAAAAAAAAAAAY. *NM* - 27/01/2011 11:01:15 PM 414 Views
I thought that was quite humorous - 27/01/2011 11:38:31 PM 703 Views

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