The carnal nature of the flesh just happens to be the way we're all innately broken.
Joel Send a noteboard - 27/01/2011 11:30:09 PM
Or else he believed in the principles, but was too weak to act according to them.
Humans can't will themselves to action, our brains aren't wired that way.
So I will merely say that a large part of the Christian faith focuses on exactly that - resisting the temptations of the flesh.
A large part of Christian Faith is not the resisting of the temptations of the flesh but is instead trying to form a communion with God. Christian Faith recognizes we are all innately broken and nothing we can do can fix that, only by coming to understand that we are innately broken can we establish a relationship with God and thus obtain the Kingdom of Heaven.
You, um, kinda skipped over that part, which is unfortunate, since it demonstrates why what Shannow said is so necessary to what you just said. It's impossible to have a RELATIONship with anyone solely on ones own terms, and doubly wrong to attempt it with ones Maker. Any carnal desire put ahead of God is turning ones back on Him; why would anyone except a fellow human being to accept that kind of "relationship", let alone expect God to do so?
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Ted Haggard Would Be Bisexual If He Was a Hot 21-Year-Old
- 27/01/2011 05:01:12 PM
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Not sure what the point of this post was *NM*
- 27/01/2011 06:50:59 PM
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It was something that made me laugh?
- 27/01/2011 06:53:09 PM
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yeah you were only insulting people's religion, no reason to get worked up. *NM*
- 27/01/2011 09:24:55 PM
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Er, pretty sure just laughing at what one guy said, plus a pun on the word "hard"
- 27/01/2011 09:40:29 PM
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I am an athiest so I don't care
- 27/01/2011 10:10:26 PM
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Or he'd still be closeted because of twisted, hateful strains of Christianity. *NM*
- 27/01/2011 06:56:04 PM
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If your religion states homosexuality is wrong, then it is a position of principle...
- 27/01/2011 06:59:04 PM
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Wow, you really don't understand what it is to be human
- 27/01/2011 08:51:17 PM
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I'm sure you'll agree that a religious debate is not really called for here...
- 27/01/2011 09:10:38 PM
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Homosexuality =/= homosexual sex.
- 27/01/2011 09:16:50 PM
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Err...no.
- 27/01/2011 09:23:54 PM
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Re: Err...no.
- 27/01/2011 09:42:00 PM
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You seem to want to argue about what is allowed and what is not allowed...
- 27/01/2011 10:08:10 PM
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Nah, I know better than to argue with you. I just thought your phrasing was rather silly.
- 27/01/2011 10:14:50 PM
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I completely and utterly disagree
- 27/01/2011 10:39:10 PM
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The carnal nature of the flesh just happens to be the way we're all innately broken.
- 27/01/2011 11:30:09 PM
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Replace "Christian Faith" with "hardcore Calvinism" and I'll go away.
- 28/01/2011 12:35:36 AM
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Is it possible to have faith, but not agree with your church's stance on subjects?. *NM*
- 27/01/2011 09:15:14 PM
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Of course. Faith is a broad concept. But...
- 27/01/2011 09:20:54 PM
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I was thinking along the lines of Christans who are gay or or believe in gay rights.
- 27/01/2011 09:29:50 PM
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Well, at least you're not disputing the nature of my claim.
- 27/01/2011 10:23:24 PM
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I thought acceptance meant rejecting anything with which you're uncomfortable? 
- 27/01/2011 11:39:48 PM
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- 27/01/2011 11:39:48 PM
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Don't even know what that means. 
- 28/01/2011 12:31:23 AM
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- 28/01/2011 12:31:23 AM
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Actually, that first line is my problem with Universalism
- 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM
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"Carnal flesh" is redundant, you know.
- 28/01/2011 04:27:30 AM
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- 28/01/2011 04:27:30 AM
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Point of emphasis.
- 28/01/2011 05:52:28 AM
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- 28/01/2011 05:52:28 AM
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Agreed. *NM*
- 28/01/2011 06:33:55 AM
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*NM*
- 28/01/2011 06:33:55 AM
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Then I'm confused, either about what you believe or how you reconcile it with my second paragraph.
- 28/01/2011 10:54:13 PM
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At the risk of simplifying: All roads don't lead to Cleveland, nor do they lead to God.
- 01/02/2011 03:47:57 PM
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...I can't believe of the three posts, this is the only one with replies
- 27/01/2011 09:48:14 PM
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It is nothing new, there are always people "who protest too much"
- 27/01/2011 10:26:49 PM
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This guy needs serious mental help, in my humble laymans opinion.
- 27/01/2011 11:42:00 PM
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