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The alternative is to go to the U.S. Knightscape Send a noteboard - 05/02/2011 08:10:20 AM
Will you excuse me if I don't quite believe that? It took Scott and another friend of hours several tries to explain to me the other night that when she went to the hospital with chest pains there wasn't even a copay, she paid, zero, zilch, nada for her medical care (at least "at the point of sale"; obviously it's part of her tax burden). You want to talk about "waits" for healthcare? I walked around with appendicitis for two years because I couldn't afford a doctor, only having it removed the day after going to an ER who informed me they'd be doing surgery as soon as a surgeon arrived and hoping my appendix didn't rupture in the mean time.


There is no choice in Ontario. If you want to use an alternative, well you can't as it would be considered a two tier system. One person having faster access to medicare if they want to pay our of their own pocket "would not be fair".

My father had a small accident, he went to the hospital and waited. He arrived at about ten in the morning, at about six in the evening he saw a doctor, and at about nine in the evening he returned home. This to determine he had a sprain. These kind of waits are common place.

There are people dying waiting for surgery on a regular basis.

An example of how absurd things have become; A few years ago when all this 'no two-tier' nonsense was really hitting stride it was learned that the Toronto Raptors were renting out MRI facilities from the Ontario government. The facilities were being used at night when otherwise the facility would have been shut down. Everything was paid for by the Raptors including rent, supplies, staff enabling the Ontario government to make a nice profit doing this. This was a program where anyone who wanted to pay, could take advantage of it. Guess what? No two-tier, program ended, Toronto Raptors and everyone else who now wants choice has to travel to Buffalo for their MRI and other medical needs.


All good things come to those who wait.
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