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There's enough hatred in my heart for both the Packers and the WCO. Joel Send a noteboard - 07/02/2011 03:42:51 PM
for some reason he likes to hold a grudge for something that happened almost a decade before he was born...

The formers use of the latter in the Favre era just provided me the perfect storm. All the "Dallas cheated111" talk after the '95 NFC Championship, followed by players 16-0 predictions after the SB XXXI win, followed by more "Denver cheated111" after the SB XXXII loss helped, too. Holmgren still says they "let" Denver score the game winning TD, though if you look at the whole of his comments he's just saying the D he rode to that game and the previous championship wasn't good enough to stop us from scoring and he put it all on his offense. The one Denver stopped on the drive after their TD to officially beat the great Holmgren Packers on both sides of the ball.
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Super Bowl XLV Pick 'Em: Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Green Bay Packers Joel - 06/02/2011 10:54:32 PM 782 Views
I'll go with the Steeelers... LordPerrin - 06/02/2011 11:04:10 PM 479 Views
At least they're not the Packers. Joel - 06/02/2011 11:32:18 PM 568 Views
Ill go with the Packers (not as many accused rapists on that team) *NM* Aisha - 06/02/2011 11:31:43 PM 289 Views
Guilty once accused? Joel - 06/02/2011 11:59:01 PM 584 Views
Packers! nossy - 06/02/2011 11:57:53 PM 524 Views
Bleah, but OK. Joel - 07/02/2011 12:02:01 AM 603 Views
And the Packer pick off! nossy - 07/02/2011 12:08:27 AM 530 Views
I'm'a stop responding to you 'cos Roethlisberger throws a dumb pick every time I do. Joel - 07/02/2011 12:47:23 AM 582 Views
Re: Bleah, but OK. TaskmasterJack - 07/02/2011 10:29:35 PM 557 Views
He did get pushed into Roethlisberger at a very inopportune time. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:31:27 PM 776 Views
Re: He did get pushed into Roethlisberger at a very inopportune time. TaskmasterJack - 09/02/2011 12:16:22 AM 646 Views
Obviously I pick the Pack... Dannymac - 07/02/2011 01:04:18 AM 567 Views
The good news is Roethlisberger's a mediocre QB. Joel - 07/02/2011 02:23:45 AM 572 Views
"Oh, we can't throw deep on 2nd and short because we might loose the ball". Joel - 07/02/2011 02:32:43 AM 607 Views
Better keep replying. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 02:38:15 AM 464 Views
Seriously? Joel - 07/02/2011 03:20:44 AM 617 Views
Thanks! Dannymac - 07/02/2011 03:31:29 AM 524 Views
NP Joel - 07/02/2011 04:11:40 AM 603 Views
Pack won by 6. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 04:21:06 AM 516 Views
Right, I keep forgetting the last FG, sorry. Joel - 07/02/2011 06:19:50 AM 569 Views
The offense scored 24 points against the best points defense in the NFL. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 08:54:37 AM 593 Views
On a very short field all but one of the times they got into the end zone. Joel - 07/02/2011 09:43:57 AM 586 Views
joel -- give it up moondog - 07/02/2011 01:35:11 PM 555 Views
I didn't say they didn't win fair and square. Joel - 07/02/2011 03:36:22 PM 522 Views
i can't help that you will always look for the cloud to every silver lining moondog - 08/02/2011 01:37:38 AM 545 Views
Again, I'm just saying give credit where it's due, and that's the Packers defence, by a fair margin. Joel - 08/02/2011 02:02:05 PM 596 Views
The Steelers lost because they couldn't move the ball on their last drive random thoughts - 08/02/2011 01:58:28 PM 719 Views
I'm aware; I'm just not sure why that makes Aaron Rodgers the Most Valuable Player. Joel - 08/02/2011 02:04:41 PM 582 Views
because he is the QB random thoughts - 08/02/2011 03:23:23 PM 581 Views
So what? Joel - 08/02/2011 03:39:15 PM 644 Views
QB is the de facto MVP of the super bowl when nobody else stands out moondog - 08/02/2011 03:55:32 PM 606 Views
The forced fumble and the pick six are the two things I point to as game winners. Joel - 08/02/2011 04:52:27 PM 684 Views
game winning plays are different than consistent play throughout the game moondog - 09/02/2011 01:56:53 AM 774 Views
didn't you call Romo a choker because he hasn't won the big games? random thoughts - 08/02/2011 04:24:04 PM 663 Views
Because he's LOST big games as a direct result of things he actually DID. Joel - 08/02/2011 04:56:00 PM 588 Views
no it is a team sport and the his poor play at QB is not the reason they lost those games random thoughts - 08/02/2011 05:16:22 PM 522 Views
and random thoughts - 08/02/2011 05:17:49 PM 690 Views
i think joel's problem is less the west coast offense and more his disdain for all things packers moondog - 07/02/2011 01:33:10 PM 537 Views
There's enough hatred in my heart for both the Packers and the WCO. Joel - 07/02/2011 03:42:51 PM 632 Views
What Denver cheated talk? Dannymac - 07/02/2011 07:44:39 PM 778 Views
All the talk about cut blocking being the same as chop blocking. Joel - 08/02/2011 03:02:38 PM 736 Views
My persoanl preiction was the mirror opposite of the actual result. *NM* Stephen - 07/02/2011 03:31:08 AM 243 Views
I hate when that happens. Joel - 07/02/2011 03:55:35 AM 537 Views
gghrhahrhghg! ßelals Girl - 07/02/2011 04:08:17 AM 582 Views
For once we agree completely. Joel - 07/02/2011 04:17:50 AM 793 Views
Actually we just beat the second coming... Dannymac - 07/02/2011 04:23:46 AM 571 Views
I loathe both teams and their fans; I find Packers fans far more insufferably arrogant. Joel - 07/02/2011 06:28:22 AM 602 Views
Super Bowls, Super Bowls, Super Bowls. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 08:42:39 AM 632 Views
Pittsburgh isn't a large market? That matters since the Pack instituted drafts and profit sharing? Joel - 07/02/2011 09:34:03 AM 592 Views
Quite true. We are significantly better than sliced bread. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 07:34:57 PM 519 Views
I know which I prefer. Joel - 08/02/2011 03:14:11 PM 637 Views
actually.... moondog - 09/02/2011 01:37:54 AM 485 Views
oh, you're a cowboys fan again? moondog - 07/02/2011 01:42:58 PM 550 Views
I never stopped being a Cowboys fan. Joel - 07/02/2011 03:53:03 PM 595 Views
I was going for Steelers. Kronin al'Sulc - 07/02/2011 05:53:38 AM 478 Views
Aw, Pitt doesn't seem so bad... Joel - 07/02/2011 06:29:09 AM 608 Views
I was going for Steelers. Kronin al'Sulc - 07/02/2011 05:53:38 AM 550 Views
Emphatically, it seems. Joel - 07/02/2011 09:46:18 AM 490 Views
Re: Super Bowl XLV Pick 'Em: Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Green Bay Packers Kaldric - 07/02/2011 12:08:10 PM 494 Views
Yick. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:32:31 PM 473 Views
It's awesome because it's MST3K Kaldric - 08/02/2011 05:01:17 PM 556 Views
HAHAHAHA!! moondog - 09/02/2011 01:40:16 AM 638 Views
i'm gonna go out on another limb and pick the packers to win the super bowl! moondog - 07/02/2011 01:32:32 PM 568 Views
Yeah, I kinda figured that went without saying. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:39:17 PM 657 Views
Great game. callandor1000 - 07/02/2011 02:49:22 PM 462 Views
It was exciting, but I'm more inclined to agree with Palatine about the quality. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:46:47 PM 666 Views
Re: It was exciting, but I'm more inclined to agree with Palatine about the quality. callandor1000 - 08/02/2011 02:32:53 PM 618 Views
Slo mo counts on replays; that's the point. Joel - 08/02/2011 03:24:23 PM 551 Views
despise everything they represent??? moondog - 09/02/2011 01:54:07 AM 669 Views
Re: Slo mo counts on replays; that's the point. callandor1000 - 09/02/2011 02:48:55 PM 874 Views
I don't pick teams, I root for teams. Palatine - 07/02/2011 06:06:50 PM 418 Views
I can pick a team when I don't care who wins; would that that had been the case here. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:57:20 PM 560 Views
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