All the talk about cut blocking being the same as chop blocking.
Joel Send a noteboard - 08/02/2011 03:02:38 PM
Which really demonstrates nothing more than either a poor grasp of the rule book or denial of reality, take your pick. I heard it less from Packers fans than from traditonal Broncos rivals, but I heard it from them, too. It's not that Denver had one of the all time great offensive lines (that furnished the teams first HoFer to date) any more than ANOTHER of the all time great offensive lines earned Dallas the '95 NFC Championship (what a great time to be a Cowboys fan in Milwaukee....
) When you lose your opponents must've cheated, and when you win it's time to predict 16-0 before next season even starts. That's a combination that produces annoying losers and insufferable winners.
The main things I remember are the Helicopter tackle, the always breathtaking Terrell Davis running (his stats actually got BETTER the deeper Denver went into the playoffs, and his career playoff numbers are still unmatched) and the Eddie Mac pancake block on a linebacker fifty pounds heavier that set up 1st and G on the game winning TD. That, and Davis leaving the game in the first quarter because of a migraine that left him blind, only to return, still blind, to fake a run to the left at the goal line that drew the entire Packers D after him while Elway scampered right and into the end zone.
Your running game is pretty dismal, man. I wouldn't get to used to it either; one of these days the Competition Committee is going to start asking itself some hard questions. Like
Do we really believe that the best QBs of the past 90 years all happen to be playing RIGHT NOW?
Is it reasonable that in a SB between two premiere defences the LOSER scored 25 points?
Does it really make sense that the SB Champs, despite being a wildcard team, only had 100 rushing yards in ONE post season game?
Have we maybe made things a BIT too easy for offenses, especially passers and receivers?
It sells tickets and ads, but the players, coaches and refs who make the rules aren't going to be satisfied with it for long, IMHO. I'm an offensively and passing minded guy, but this business of wrapping QBs in foam so that you can't hit 'em low, can't hit 'em high, can't hit 'em hard and can't allow your helmet to touch anyone, while receivers are practically illegal to even look at it until well after they've made a catch, is a temporary aberration. At least, I hope it is, or it'll become impossible to deny the charges that the NFL is "armor plated sissyball".
) When you lose your opponents must've cheated, and when you win it's time to predict 16-0 before next season even starts. That's a combination that produces annoying losers and insufferable winners.I am either friends of or related to some pretty hardcore GB fans, I remember that game, and I remember the perfect storm of a highly talented Denver squad FINALLY actually doing something with Elway's talent. We couldn't execute with the folks we had on the field, and Denver did.
The main things I remember are the Helicopter tackle, the always breathtaking Terrell Davis running (his stats actually got BETTER the deeper Denver went into the playoffs, and his career playoff numbers are still unmatched) and the Eddie Mac pancake block on a linebacker fifty pounds heavier that set up 1st and G on the game winning TD. That, and Davis leaving the game in the first quarter because of a migraine that left him blind, only to return, still blind, to fake a run to the left at the goal line that drew the entire Packers D after him while Elway scampered right and into the end zone.
The job of the offense is to move the ball and score. If you do that, no one cares how you did it. If you lose, the fact that you ran a certain offense won't cushion the blow. I would have been just as happy to have won yesterday with Packer Sweep after Packer Sweep. As is, I'm liking the WCO. I'm liking our dominating defense. Given we're the Super Bowl champs, there isn't a whole lot about our team to dislike save the fact that they aren't your team.
Your running game is pretty dismal, man. I wouldn't get to used to it either; one of these days the Competition Committee is going to start asking itself some hard questions. Like
Do we really believe that the best QBs of the past 90 years all happen to be playing RIGHT NOW?
Is it reasonable that in a SB between two premiere defences the LOSER scored 25 points?
Does it really make sense that the SB Champs, despite being a wildcard team, only had 100 rushing yards in ONE post season game?
Have we maybe made things a BIT too easy for offenses, especially passers and receivers?
It sells tickets and ads, but the players, coaches and refs who make the rules aren't going to be satisfied with it for long, IMHO. I'm an offensively and passing minded guy, but this business of wrapping QBs in foam so that you can't hit 'em low, can't hit 'em high, can't hit 'em hard and can't allow your helmet to touch anyone, while receivers are practically illegal to even look at it until well after they've made a catch, is a temporary aberration. At least, I hope it is, or it'll become impossible to deny the charges that the NFL is "armor plated sissyball".
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Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

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Super Bowl XLV Pick 'Em: Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Green Bay Packers
- 06/02/2011 10:54:32 PM
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Ill go with the Packers (not as many accused rapists on that team) *NM*
- 06/02/2011 11:31:43 PM
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Packers!
- 06/02/2011 11:57:53 PM
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Bleah, but OK.
- 07/02/2011 12:02:01 AM
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And the Packer pick off!
- 07/02/2011 12:08:27 AM
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I'm'a stop responding to you 'cos Roethlisberger throws a dumb pick every time I do.
- 07/02/2011 12:47:23 AM
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- 07/02/2011 12:47:23 AM
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Re: Bleah, but OK.
- 07/02/2011 10:29:35 PM
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He did get pushed into Roethlisberger at a very inopportune time.
- 08/02/2011 01:31:27 PM
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Re: He did get pushed into Roethlisberger at a very inopportune time.
- 09/02/2011 12:16:22 AM
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Obviously I pick the Pack...
- 07/02/2011 01:04:18 AM
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"Oh, we can't throw deep on 2nd and short because we might loose the ball".
- 07/02/2011 02:32:43 AM
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Better keep replying.
- 07/02/2011 02:38:15 AM
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Seriously?
- 07/02/2011 03:20:44 AM
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Thanks!
- 07/02/2011 03:31:29 AM
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NP
- 07/02/2011 04:11:40 AM
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Pack won by 6.
- 07/02/2011 04:21:06 AM
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Right, I keep forgetting the last FG, sorry.
- 07/02/2011 06:19:50 AM
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The offense scored 24 points against the best points defense in the NFL.
- 07/02/2011 08:54:37 AM
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On a very short field all but one of the times they got into the end zone.
- 07/02/2011 09:43:57 AM
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joel -- give it up
- 07/02/2011 01:35:11 PM
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I didn't say they didn't win fair and square.
- 07/02/2011 03:36:22 PM
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i can't help that you will always look for the cloud to every silver lining
- 08/02/2011 01:37:38 AM
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Again, I'm just saying give credit where it's due, and that's the Packers defence, by a fair margin.
- 08/02/2011 02:02:05 PM
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The Steelers lost because they couldn't move the ball on their last drive
- 08/02/2011 01:58:28 PM
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I'm aware; I'm just not sure why that makes Aaron Rodgers the Most Valuable Player.
- 08/02/2011 02:04:41 PM
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because he is the QB
- 08/02/2011 03:23:23 PM
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So what?
- 08/02/2011 03:39:15 PM
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QB is the de facto MVP of the super bowl when nobody else stands out
- 08/02/2011 03:55:32 PM
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The forced fumble and the pick six are the two things I point to as game winners.
- 08/02/2011 04:52:27 PM
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game winning plays are different than consistent play throughout the game
- 09/02/2011 01:56:53 AM
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didn't you call Romo a choker because he hasn't won the big games?
- 08/02/2011 04:24:04 PM
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Because he's LOST big games as a direct result of things he actually DID.
- 08/02/2011 04:56:00 PM
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no it is a team sport and the his poor play at QB is not the reason they lost those games
- 08/02/2011 05:16:22 PM
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i think joel's problem is less the west coast offense and more his disdain for all things packers
- 07/02/2011 01:33:10 PM
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There's enough hatred in my heart for both the Packers and the WCO.
- 07/02/2011 03:42:51 PM
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What Denver cheated talk?
- 07/02/2011 07:44:39 PM
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All the talk about cut blocking being the same as chop blocking.
- 08/02/2011 03:02:38 PM
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My persoanl preiction was the mirror opposite of the actual result. *NM*
- 07/02/2011 03:31:08 AM
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gghrhahrhghg!
- 07/02/2011 04:08:17 AM
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For once we agree completely.
- 07/02/2011 04:17:50 AM
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Actually we just beat the second coming...
- 07/02/2011 04:23:46 AM
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I loathe both teams and their fans; I find Packers fans far more insufferably arrogant.
- 07/02/2011 06:28:22 AM
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Super Bowls, Super Bowls, Super Bowls.
- 07/02/2011 08:42:39 AM
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Pittsburgh isn't a large market? That matters since the Pack instituted drafts and profit sharing?
- 07/02/2011 09:34:03 AM
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Quite true. We are significantly better than sliced bread.
- 07/02/2011 07:34:57 PM
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Re: Super Bowl XLV Pick 'Em: Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Green Bay Packers
- 07/02/2011 12:08:10 PM
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i'm gonna go out on another limb and pick the packers to win the super bowl!
- 07/02/2011 01:32:32 PM
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Great game.
- 07/02/2011 02:49:22 PM
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It was exciting, but I'm more inclined to agree with Palatine about the quality.
- 08/02/2011 01:46:47 PM
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Re: It was exciting, but I'm more inclined to agree with Palatine about the quality.
- 08/02/2011 02:32:53 PM
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I don't pick teams, I root for teams.
- 07/02/2011 06:06:50 PM
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I can pick a team when I don't care who wins; would that that had been the case here.
- 08/02/2011 01:57:20 PM
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- 08/02/2011 01:57:20 PM
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