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Yes: It makes it worse. Joel Send a noteboard - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM
Here is the original bit we were given

This has to be a tough call for the environmentalists around the world. They're scrambling now to blame this on global warming

Reading that implies that Rush is claiming that that there are environmentalist out there actively claiming that global warming caused it.


Bit left out
have no doubt they're gonna try to claim global warming had something to do with the earthquake and the tsunami. Well of course they will.

But here when we look at what else he said it is clear that he is only claiming that they will blame it on it global warming. Not that much unlike my comment that some church nutter will blame it on gays.

Actually, context shows that he both claims it HAS happened and WILL happen yet offering zero proof for either. And we all know how awful it is to accuse someone of something without proof (remember: Even if he has tape of an environmentalist making the claim it's inadmissable unless we have every statement they've ever made for context! :rolleyes: ) Worse, it shows him accusing environmentalists of ALREADY doing it (without evidence, let alone proof) in the course of a series of jokes about multiple disasters that have killed thousands. Then he tuts Obama for carelessly referring to our alliance with Japan as "unshakeable" (though I agree that was a poor choice of words; presumably that Limbaugh accusation was actually truthful, but wtf knows at this point?)
As for the other, saying that he claiming the extra few centimeters of sea level we can blame on global warming was a factor doesn't really go very far in defending him. I think I had more respect for him when is was unclear what he meant.

Understandable; no one in this thread has tried to defend that comment either in context or otherwise. As I've said from the start, it was a clumsy link, and an exploitive tactic, and I believe snoop has said much the same. See how easy it is to condemn shameful behavior even from political allies?
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? Camilla - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 958 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president Isaac - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 897 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. Joel - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 667 Views
Actually people have Isaac - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 819 Views
Which people? Where? Example? Joel - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 843 Views
Tsunami and climate change Knightscape - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 896 Views
"Speakers were careful to point out that many findings still amounted only to hypotheses" Joel - 18/03/2011 01:31:44 PM 811 Views
Re: No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. dart_board - 18/03/2011 12:25:01 PM 840 Views
Republican spin doctor Frank Luntz popularized "climate change" to make global warming appealing. Joel - 18/03/2011 01:56:01 PM 744 Views
A slightly misleading post snoopcester - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 762 Views
Surprised? *NM* Camilla - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 325 Views
Not completely. *NM* snoopcester - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 304 Views
Kind of missed the point there Isaac - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 769 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. Joel - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 637 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 772 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... Joel - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 781 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 610 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 712 Views
Re: Fair enough. Isaac - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 693 Views
No worries. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 951 Views
I've read the transcript snoopcester - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 787 Views
Re: I've read the transcript Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 686 Views
You need to reread what I said snoopcester - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 655 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 734 Views
Perhaps snoopcester - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 795 Views
Okay, I'm done Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 683 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point Helene - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 659 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". Joel - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 712 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 645 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). Joel - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 703 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means Joel - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 808 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush random thoughts - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 729 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. Joel - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 651 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it random thoughts - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 748 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. Joel - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 717 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard random thoughts - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 660 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. Joel - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 783 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be random thoughts - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 679 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright Joel - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 852 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done random thoughts - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 718 Views
Hey, guys! Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 611 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* random thoughts - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 277 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. Joel - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 791 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters random thoughts - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 679 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 683 Views
no it shows that the one statements was not meant to be taken literally random thoughts - 17/03/2011 02:47:55 AM 706 Views
At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence. Joel - 18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM 787 Views
so you finally agre that the context changes the meaning, took you long enough random thoughts - 18/03/2011 02:33:41 PM 658 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard Camilla - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 799 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* random thoughts - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 282 Views
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