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So let me get this straight: Tom Send a noteboard - 22/03/2011 06:48:53 PM
You're saying, without evidence, that some people on Twitter are opposed to the action. I never would have guessed. You provide no evidence why these semi-anonymous voices of dissent, who are in the minority as you admit, should have figured into the coalition's decision to start bombing to stop the Qaddhafi forces at the gates of Benghazi. Then you go on to say that these voices diminished when Qatar announced it was joining the coalition. So in other words, these irrelevant anonymous people didn't need Qatar to have joined the coalition BEFORE we started bombing, just to know that Qatar DID actually join. I once again see no reason why we should have waited.

Please go back to your original statement and explain to me how anything you've said since has supported that original statement. How would we have gained by waiting to start the campaign until Qatar was ready (which it still isn't, by the way)? How much would we have lost in dead civilians in Libya?

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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So within 24 hours of the 1st UN mandated action in Libya... Wibble - 20/03/2011 04:38:25 PM 1737 Views
Quite. Rebekah - 20/03/2011 04:41:39 PM 913 Views
The Arab league guy has gone out saying he was misquoted. Camilla - 20/03/2011 05:26:21 PM 993 Views
... completely surprising absolutely no one. *NM* Macharius - 20/03/2011 05:28:20 PM 412 Views
China and Russian abstained instead of voting No, which is odd. Rebekah - 20/03/2011 05:32:02 PM 946 Views
Workplace politics writ large. With more blood. Gads. My hermit instinct is rearing it's head. *NM* Tashmere - 20/03/2011 08:35:35 PM 414 Views
I think we should just ignore anything Russia and China says about human rights.. random thoughts - 20/03/2011 10:15:59 PM 878 Views
Re: I think we should just ignore anything Russia and China says about human rights.. ironclad - 20/03/2011 11:12:11 PM 998 Views
exactly random thoughts - 21/03/2011 12:13:28 AM 893 Views
Misquoted to the extent of ordering an emergency meeting of the Arab League uh? Wibble - 20/03/2011 05:41:45 PM 937 Views
Re: So within 24 hours of the 1st UN mandated action in Libya... Macharius - 20/03/2011 05:31:48 PM 1077 Views
Apparently Qatar is about to join the fray... it is rather crucial that the Arab world backs this. Legolas - 20/03/2011 05:50:14 PM 966 Views
And snoopcester - 20/03/2011 05:52:59 PM 940 Views
There is a lot of politics going on in the Arab League, from what I've read snoopcester - 20/03/2011 05:52:31 PM 1171 Views
That is a big miscalculation. Rebekah - 20/03/2011 06:10:34 PM 1037 Views
Not really Wibble - 20/03/2011 06:23:52 PM 1042 Views
Agreed. Waiting wasn't an option. *NM* Legolas - 20/03/2011 06:46:39 PM 365 Views
I dunno. Rebekah - 20/03/2011 06:59:18 PM 1069 Views
But the people who are going to think that way are going to do it no matter what random thoughts - 20/03/2011 10:13:36 PM 919 Views
The impression I got Ryan - 21/03/2011 04:14:57 PM 1123 Views
to much diplomacy and not enough action random thoughts - 21/03/2011 04:56:45 PM 953 Views
It is us vs. them. Tom - 20/03/2011 10:30:50 PM 1102 Views
Seriously. I can't believe Snoop and Rebekah's comments. It's like we had weeks to act. Tom - 20/03/2011 10:27:40 PM 1043 Views
We have had weeks to act snoopcester - 20/03/2011 11:15:15 PM 1037 Views
The French hit those vehicles in that military convoy 10 miles from Benghazi center. Tom - 21/03/2011 03:01:06 AM 1003 Views
Because when you get involved in what is, unfortunately, an internal matter, Rebekah - 20/03/2011 11:18:16 PM 917 Views
Qatar is not part of Libya so it would still be outsiders interfering in an internal matter random thoughts - 21/03/2011 12:25:30 AM 989 Views
I have to ask: nossy - 21/03/2011 03:13:31 AM 1114 Views
I don't think the people in Libya give at rat's ass about what the king of Qatar wants random thoughts - 21/03/2011 05:12:26 AM 1072 Views
Imo, it's not about "gratitude." nossy - 21/03/2011 04:05:41 PM 974 Views
I actaully like NPR and listen to them on a regular basis random thoughts - 21/03/2011 04:44:42 PM 1016 Views
Well, that has all shit to do with Qatari participation. Tom - 21/03/2011 03:02:19 AM 929 Views
Not so. Rebekah - 21/03/2011 08:54:31 AM 1059 Views
Bullshit. Tom - 21/03/2011 01:37:32 PM 1160 Views
Well. Rebekah - 21/03/2011 06:58:19 PM 953 Views
That's odd. I'm not seeing any of this criticism. Tom - 21/03/2011 10:55:27 PM 960 Views
There's been plenty on Twitter. Rebekah - 22/03/2011 08:29:48 AM 1119 Views
So let me get this straight: Tom - 22/03/2011 06:48:53 PM 1045 Views
It's not about "legitimacy" so much as it is about, to use the ugly word, propaganda. Legolas - 21/03/2011 10:33:12 PM 884 Views
The only support I've seen Qaddhafi get is from the rogues gallery of world pariahs. Tom - 21/03/2011 11:01:54 PM 1002 Views
Indeed. And they should make sure it stays that way. Legolas - 21/03/2011 11:05:42 PM 1009 Views
The PR has very little to do with Qatar joining or not. Tom - 22/03/2011 01:34:33 AM 1045 Views
Is the Qatar involvement as important as the Kuwaiti involvement in the Iraq War? random thoughts - 22/03/2011 06:57:27 PM 1389 Views
Kuwait was involved in the Iraq War? *NM* Legolas - 22/03/2011 08:35:21 PM 366 Views
They were part of the famous Coalition of the Willing *NM* random thoughts - 22/03/2011 08:47:55 PM 379 Views
We got our authorization. Tom - 20/03/2011 10:25:10 PM 1118 Views
I don't see a situation where this does not turn into a land war. Stephen - 20/03/2011 10:51:41 PM 996 Views
it is already is a land war if you ask the people on the ground doing the fighting for weeks random thoughts - 21/03/2011 12:34:10 AM 1015 Views
Yeah, that's what I meant. Stephen - 21/03/2011 12:48:57 AM 927 Views
I doubt it would take US ground troops. Tom - 21/03/2011 03:16:24 AM 971 Views
Fuck that Aisha - 21/03/2011 12:47:54 AM 1012 Views
you are always have been a fence sitter random thoughts - 21/03/2011 01:09:59 AM 925 Views
Fuck Gadhafi. Dragonsoul - 21/03/2011 05:21:29 AM 855 Views
how full of yourself are you? Aisha - 21/03/2011 12:37:47 PM 1047 Views
They're not my people. Dragonsoul - 21/03/2011 02:22:46 PM 983 Views
Wha? nossy - 21/03/2011 03:55:51 PM 1027 Views
Nope. Dragonsoul - 21/03/2011 04:21:21 PM 1022 Views
Ok. nossy - 21/03/2011 04:30:44 PM 975 Views
I challenge you to point out where I'd advocated killing anyone but him and the military... Dragonsoul - 21/03/2011 04:45:05 PM 880 Views
The part where I said I misread should sufficiently cover that. nossy - 21/03/2011 04:49:18 PM 1004 Views
Do something, get whined at. Do nothing and you get Rwanda. Druid - 21/03/2011 11:19:38 AM 1116 Views
I completely agree. *NM* Tom - 21/03/2011 11:04:34 PM 309 Views
I would reply... Wibble - 21/03/2011 11:22:14 PM 841 Views
It is only natural that the girl preferred me to you, but....... Druid - 21/03/2011 11:36:33 PM 1006 Views
snoopcester - 21/03/2011 11:38:49 PM 807 Views
Don't me!! Druid - 21/03/2011 11:50:07 PM 918 Views
And you old enough to be her father, you should be ashamed... Wibble - 22/03/2011 12:17:55 AM 750 Views
She said she prefers experience to enthusiasm....... Druid - 22/03/2011 12:24:05 AM 862 Views
Funny. She told me it was all down to the size of your.....wallet. *NM* Wibble - 22/03/2011 12:33:33 AM 362 Views
You know what they say....big wallet....big everything *NM* Druid - 22/03/2011 12:38:56 AM 404 Views
"You old enough to be her father" is usually followed with "I'm impressed and envious" Tom - 22/03/2011 06:50:27 PM 914 Views
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