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the punishemnt has to be reasonable for it to work and I believe in this case it was random thoughts Send a noteboard - 25/03/2011 08:31:59 PM

The kid getting punched might not have fought back if he knew that doing so would get him expelled or like in lot of places in the US arrested and fined hundreds of dollars. Because the punishment was reasonable it was low enough that he was willing to risk it for the right to defend himself. You make is sound like I am claiming he doesn't have the right to defend himself but the opposite is true. I am saying that he has the right to do it if he thinks it worth paying the price. Very rarely do we know enough about what leads up to these fights so the only rational thing is to treat both boys the same. Now if one kid makes a habit out of fighting he should be punished more. I do think that if can be shown that the one boy was simply attacking the other boy for sport (and please don’t claim we can or we will be back in the context argument again) then I think it would be reasonable for the school to punish the one boy both for fighting and then separately for harassment but that would not stop me from punishing both boys for fighting. I don’t think any of us know enough about this case or what evidence the school has to make that judgment. It would have helped if there has been some audio.

I will admit that this case stretches my argument by I still think it makes sense to have the rule that fighting will be punished and it is up to you to decide if you want to pay the cost. If not all the bully has to do is instigate the victim into throwing the first punch.
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I guess this is one response to bullying - 24/03/2011 10:52:50 PM 1327 Views
I'm so proud of that kid. The teachers can fuck off. - 24/03/2011 11:04:29 PM 705 Views
Re: I'm so proud of that kid. The teachers can fuck off. - 24/03/2011 11:07:25 PM 620 Views
Same here - 24/03/2011 11:24:38 PM 912 Views
It's ironic that I'm reading this now... - 26/03/2011 06:28:31 PM 737 Views
Concur. The lame antibully programs at schools these days are ridiculous. - 26/03/2011 08:47:56 PM 528 Views
It didn't look pretty - 24/03/2011 11:06:00 PM 622 Views
He took care of it without going too far. Good on him! *NM* - 24/03/2011 11:56:22 PM 214 Views
*Stands up and applauds* - 25/03/2011 01:22:04 AM 704 Views
There's an uproar over this? - 25/03/2011 02:19:10 AM 861 Views
Re: There's an uproar over this? - 25/03/2011 04:52:15 AM 641 Views
Not expelled. - 25/03/2011 06:47:23 AM 618 Views
From what I saw they both got the same - 25/03/2011 10:13:43 AM 605 Views
That's retarded *NM* - 25/03/2011 01:40:34 PM 331 Views
not really - 25/03/2011 02:28:25 PM 587 Views
Plus... who gives a crap about a suspension at that age? - 25/03/2011 04:59:03 PM 551 Views
there is a real danger in not punishing self defense - 25/03/2011 05:17:38 PM 685 Views
Er... I get what you're saying, and I don't neccessarily disagree, but... - 25/03/2011 05:39:08 PM 696 Views
a good pop in nose as stopped a lot of bullying, isn't that what everyone is cheering for here? - 25/03/2011 06:41:28 PM 797 Views
This makes a good deal of sense. - 25/03/2011 06:47:42 PM 550 Views
I agree. *NM* - 27/03/2011 09:30:50 AM 244 Views
I'd find that totally acceptable - 26/03/2011 12:58:54 AM 589 Views
There is real danger in punishing self defense as well. - 25/03/2011 05:56:26 PM 756 Views
Bernhard shot people so lets keep the hyperbole out of it - 25/03/2011 06:56:03 PM 630 Views
Fair enough. - 25/03/2011 07:33:26 PM 670 Views
the punishemnt has to be reasonable for it to work and I believe in this case it was - 25/03/2011 08:31:59 PM 631 Views
Completely agree. - 26/03/2011 07:55:00 PM 554 Views
I think the girl who stepped in deserves some respect as awell - 25/03/2011 02:32:48 PM 768 Views
Definitely agreed. - 25/03/2011 06:44:27 PM 580 Views
I thought this was going to be about your proposal - 25/03/2011 05:50:51 PM 573 Views
Pretty lucky he didn't get himself badly injured, yeah. - 25/03/2011 07:43:31 PM 726 Views
Huh. - 26/03/2011 02:00:51 AM 769 Views
That's pretty much what I'm feeling. - 26/03/2011 06:01:33 PM 583 Views
Same here - 27/03/2011 08:09:52 PM 728 Views
Lol. He fucked that kid up. Good for him for defending himself. *NM* - 26/03/2011 02:28:36 AM 227 Views

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