the punishemnt has to be reasonable for it to work and I believe in this case it was
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 25/03/2011 08:31:59 PM
The kid getting punched might not have fought back if he knew that doing so would get him expelled or like in lot of places in the US arrested and fined hundreds of dollars. Because the punishment was reasonable it was low enough that he was willing to risk it for the right to defend himself. You make is sound like I am claiming he doesn't have the right to defend himself but the opposite is true. I am saying that he has the right to do it if he thinks it worth paying the price. Very rarely do we know enough about what leads up to these fights so the only rational thing is to treat both boys the same. Now if one kid makes a habit out of fighting he should be punished more. I do think that if can be shown that the one boy was simply attacking the other boy for sport (and please don’t claim we can or we will be back in the context argument again) then I think it would be reasonable for the school to punish the one boy both for fighting and then separately for harassment but that would not stop me from punishing both boys for fighting. I don’t think any of us know enough about this case or what evidence the school has to make that judgment. It would have helped if there has been some audio.
I will admit that this case stretches my argument by I still think it makes sense to have the rule that fighting will be punished and it is up to you to decide if you want to pay the cost. If not all the bully has to do is instigate the victim into throwing the first punch.
I guess this is one response to bullying
- 24/03/2011 10:52:50 PM
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I'm so proud of that kid. The teachers can fuck off.
- 24/03/2011 11:04:29 PM
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Concur. The lame antibully programs at schools these days are ridiculous.
- 26/03/2011 08:47:56 PM
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That is great. He was calm, he didn't want to fight, he waited until the other kid hit him.
- 24/03/2011 11:19:49 PM
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There's an uproar over this?
- 25/03/2011 02:19:10 AM
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Re: There's an uproar over this?
- 25/03/2011 04:52:15 AM
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Not expelled.
- 25/03/2011 06:47:23 AM
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From what I saw they both got the same
- 25/03/2011 10:13:43 AM
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That's retarded *NM*
- 25/03/2011 01:40:34 PM
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not really
- 25/03/2011 02:28:25 PM
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Plus... who gives a crap about a suspension at that age?
- 25/03/2011 04:59:03 PM
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there is a real danger in not punishing self defense
- 25/03/2011 05:17:38 PM
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Er... I get what you're saying, and I don't neccessarily disagree, but...
- 25/03/2011 05:39:08 PM
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a good pop in nose as stopped a lot of bullying, isn't that what everyone is cheering for here?
- 25/03/2011 06:41:28 PM
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There is real danger in punishing self defense as well.
- 25/03/2011 05:56:26 PM
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Bernhard shot people so lets keep the hyperbole out of it
- 25/03/2011 06:56:03 PM
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Fair enough.
- 25/03/2011 07:33:26 PM
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the punishemnt has to be reasonable for it to work and I believe in this case it was
- 25/03/2011 08:31:59 PM
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I'm just not comfortable punishing self defense, provided it's a proportionate response.
- 27/03/2011 06:02:46 AM
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Big guy got 4 days, little guy and the one filming got 20 days. *NM*
- 29/03/2011 01:50:56 PM
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Lol. He fucked that kid up. Good for him for defending himself. *NM*
- 26/03/2011 02:28:36 AM
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