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I'm fairly upfront about my opinion of the value of human life vs. animal life, yes. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 27/03/2011 11:51:07 PM
I don't think it's morally justifiable to waste the immense amount of resources necessary to make all shelters no-kill when people are suffering, largely due to situations outside of their control.

I was talking about budget shortfalls and not hurricanes, but given the prevalence of the "blame New Orleans" mentality that gets tossed around regarding Katrina, I think it's really important to point out that those who were affected disproportionately represent the class of people who lack the ability to just get up and move somewhere. But they're largely poor and black, so it's a lot easier to laugh at them for being stupid than it is to acknowledge serious systemic issues.
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This Is Why I Like Dogs So Much More Than I Like People (Animal Rescue Workers: I LOVE You!) - 27/03/2011 03:20:40 PM 1559 Views
Louisiana has a bit more on its plate than adorable animals. - 27/03/2011 06:14:01 PM 862 Views
No doubt, and I respect that; it's tightening the budget by killing animals that bothers me. - 27/03/2011 06:37:17 PM 1043 Views
Feral dogs are dangerous and destructive. It's not really an option. - 27/03/2011 06:48:06 PM 693 Views
I don't know that they are, at least, not any more so than feral cats or feral teens. - 28/03/2011 04:27:44 PM 654 Views
how many people are mauled by house cats? - 28/03/2011 04:57:32 PM 614 Views
Me, for one; I don't have complete stats on everyone though. - 28/03/2011 05:06:57 PM 785 Views
How many stiches did it take to fix it? - 28/03/2011 06:42:31 PM 781 Views
It is animal control not planned parenthood for dogs - 28/03/2011 03:13:02 AM 748 Views
Interesting how that comparison keeps being made.... - 28/03/2011 04:26:38 PM 734 Views
Yes, it is easier to kill animals than have them roaming the streets. - 28/03/2011 09:36:31 PM 846 Views
I can at least respect the honesty of that. - 31/03/2011 11:43:02 PM 753 Views
I made myself a promise. - 27/03/2011 11:28:02 PM 639 Views
I'm fairly upfront about my opinion of the value of human life vs. animal life, yes. - 27/03/2011 11:51:07 PM 816 Views
Well, we differ on this, certainly. - 28/03/2011 05:14:44 AM 843 Views
how very 1960 of you - 28/03/2011 02:15:11 PM 699 Views
To answer... - 29/03/2011 04:09:33 AM 689 Views
This is an interesting subthread to observe.... - 28/03/2011 04:52:04 PM 738 Views
You succeeded. - 28/03/2011 08:44:30 PM 742 Views
Undoubtedly. - 29/03/2011 04:12:12 AM 674 Views
You also have to consider pack animal behaviour. - 27/03/2011 06:45:14 PM 826 Views
It's ironic that I read this after I wrote that above. - 27/03/2011 11:30:06 PM 884 Views
don't forget all the wildlife they kill *NM* - 28/03/2011 03:17:02 AM 361 Views
Wildlife kills a lot of wildlife; "it's the ciiiiircle of life". - 28/03/2011 04:59:27 PM 747 Views
and like a market economy that works great until you start subsidizing one side - 28/03/2011 05:15:32 PM 764 Views
A dog that can make a deer run will hunt it. - 31/03/2011 11:32:24 PM 925 Views
I've lived in a lot of cities and around a lot of dogs but never seen a feral dog pack. - 28/03/2011 04:28:32 PM 742 Views
Are you serious? - 28/03/2011 08:48:54 PM 605 Views
There are a few things wrong with that. - 31/03/2011 11:11:27 PM 649 Views
I'm planning on volunteering at a no-kill shelter in NJ when I go. - 27/03/2011 11:31:02 PM 750 Views
Sweet, and the prospect of volunteers at no kill shelters changes the economics greatly. *hugs* - 28/03/2011 04:26:29 PM 834 Views
I'm trying to spend that time on "me" stuff. - 29/03/2011 04:13:54 AM 679 Views
Probably wise; good luck and God bless with that. - 01/04/2011 12:27:09 AM 854 Views
It is sad but what can you do? - 28/03/2011 03:05:40 AM 772 Views
I'm not sure how this would be helpful? - 28/03/2011 06:04:26 PM 660 Views
I don't think it is wrong to neuter a dog for behavior reasons - 28/03/2011 06:35:16 PM 723 Views
I was with you until... - 28/03/2011 09:09:14 PM 641 Views
I said it was the cynical side of me not the rational side - 28/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 789 Views
Liberals are bigger fans of animal control than conservatives? - 28/03/2011 09:49:35 PM 590 Views
If you could only choose one, it would be better to choose the female. - 28/03/2011 10:03:44 PM 638 Views
WHY??? *NM* - 28/03/2011 10:08:30 PM 310 Views
Wait, no, you're right. - 28/03/2011 10:13:58 PM 666 Views
no no you were right - 29/03/2011 02:18:44 AM 660 Views
Ah, yeah. I was assuming 100% sterilization, which is unfeasible. Never mind. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:16:22 AM 321 Views
Ghavrel, nooooooooo! Give reason and ethics a chance first! - 29/03/2011 03:27:29 AM 872 Views
I already said it makes sense to do both. I definitely support neutering! - 29/03/2011 04:01:09 AM 876 Views
Do you know what else is absurd? - 29/03/2011 04:09:37 AM 635 Views
A clown reading Camus? *NM* - 29/03/2011 05:31:21 AM 297 Views
that would be absurd, glad I never even suggested it *NM* - 29/03/2011 02:13:39 PM 320 Views
I think you just made my point - 29/03/2011 02:16:19 AM 705 Views
Eh forget it. Not worth my time. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:10:03 AM 716 Views
proably true. I should know better than to fight faith with reason - 29/03/2011 03:15:49 AM 756 Views
I'm not here to debate doggie sex *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:15:56 AM 623 Views
that is good because from what I can tell the subject escapes you - 29/03/2011 02:34:37 PM 698 Views
Considering that it's much harder to fix females than males - 28/03/2011 10:07:47 PM 704 Views
how hard it is makes zero differience - 29/03/2011 02:25:17 AM 680 Views
I think that last bit was uncalled for. *NM* - 29/03/2011 04:15:44 AM 281 Views
not at all - 29/03/2011 01:23:03 PM 696 Views
For the uneducated of us (i.e. me) - 28/03/2011 09:40:07 PM 709 Views
Vasectomy: sterile but will still want to mate. Neutered: no mating behavior at all. *NM* - 28/03/2011 09:56:41 PM 324 Views
Someone needs to sit my dog down and explain this to him. - 28/03/2011 09:59:25 PM 625 Views
you probably had him cut to late - 29/03/2011 02:27:49 AM 690 Views

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