When a female comes into heat and she is not confined she will find a fully male dog to mate with. If all of the fully male dogs are fertile and she is fertile the odds are she will become pregnant. If most male dogs get vasectomies instead of neutered then there is a good chance the male dogs she is mating with are going to infertile and she will not become pregnant. Neutring only takes the male out of the gene pool but males don't have babies so unless you get all of them the population is not affected. A few decades ago they released hundreds of millions of flies that had been chemically sterilized near San Antonio. Many of those flies bred with intact flies and two weeks later there were a lot less flies since every sterilized fly that mated with an intact effectively took that other fly out of the gene pool.
Most shelters require you to neuter a male dog or cat if you adopt one from there and the argument is that it is to control population. It seems pretty obvious that a better method is available if population control was the true goal. I object to them placing the moral weight of population control behind their insistence when it really has very little to do with population control. Why even insist on it to begin with if is only for behavior modification? If behavior is the goal why not require training? The cynical side of me suspects it is simply because it would offend the gender equality mindset that so many people hold. Now it has become a matter of faith and it doesn't matter if it actaully works.
Most shelters require you to neuter a male dog or cat if you adopt one from there and the argument is that it is to control population. It seems pretty obvious that a better method is available if population control was the true goal. I object to them placing the moral weight of population control behind their insistence when it really has very little to do with population control. Why even insist on it to begin with if is only for behavior modification? If behavior is the goal why not require training? The cynical side of me suspects it is simply because it would offend the gender equality mindset that so many people hold. Now it has become a matter of faith and it doesn't matter if it actaully works.
Here! What does "gender equality midset" have to do with it? What do you even mean by that?
This Is Why I Like Dogs So Much More Than I Like People (Animal Rescue Workers: I LOVE You!)
- 27/03/2011 03:20:40 PM
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Louisiana has a bit more on its plate than adorable animals.
- 27/03/2011 06:14:01 PM
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No doubt, and I respect that; it's tightening the budget by killing animals that bothers me.
- 27/03/2011 06:37:17 PM
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Feral dogs are dangerous and destructive. It's not really an option.
- 27/03/2011 06:48:06 PM
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I don't know that they are, at least, not any more so than feral cats or feral teens.
- 28/03/2011 04:27:44 PM
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how many people are mauled by house cats?
- 28/03/2011 04:57:32 PM
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Me, for one; I don't have complete stats on everyone though.
- 28/03/2011 05:06:57 PM
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How many stiches did it take to fix it?
- 28/03/2011 06:42:31 PM
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About as many as it would've taken from a Cocker Spaniel or a Chihuahua.
- 01/04/2011 12:25:22 AM
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It is animal control not planned parenthood for dogs
- 28/03/2011 03:13:02 AM
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Interesting how that comparison keeps being made....
- 28/03/2011 04:26:38 PM
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Yes, it is easier to kill animals than have them roaming the streets.
- 28/03/2011 09:36:31 PM
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I made myself a promise.
- 27/03/2011 11:28:02 PM
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I'm fairly upfront about my opinion of the value of human life vs. animal life, yes.
- 27/03/2011 11:51:07 PM
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Well, we differ on this, certainly.
- 28/03/2011 05:14:44 AM
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how very 1960 of you
- 28/03/2011 02:15:11 PM
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Ok... trying to do something about no longer being poor is a choice, though.
- 28/03/2011 02:37:15 PM
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a large percentage of poor are children
- 28/03/2011 03:14:16 PM
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I wasn't saying it was easy and uncomplicated, I was saying that if you do not make any effort
- 28/03/2011 04:13:27 PM
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The myth of poor people being lazy is largely exactly that. *NM*
- 28/03/2011 08:42:58 PM
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Are you saying that I'm saying poor people are lazy? To be sure, I'm not. *NM*
- 29/03/2011 11:04:17 AM
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You also have to consider pack animal behaviour.
- 27/03/2011 06:45:14 PM
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And stray dogs probably spend most of their lives starving. Hardly pleasant for them. *NM*
- 27/03/2011 06:58:16 PM
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"Probably" is a big word, given the alternative.
- 28/03/2011 05:12:07 PM
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As someone who had to put down her healthy dog: the injection they use is very peaceful.
- 28/03/2011 05:17:01 PM
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That sounded a lot more insensitive than I meant it to be, sorry.
- 31/03/2011 11:39:54 PM
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don't forget all the wildlife they kill *NM*
- 28/03/2011 03:17:02 AM
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Wildlife kills a lot of wildlife; "it's the ciiiiircle of life".
- 28/03/2011 04:59:27 PM
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and like a market economy that works great until you start subsidizing one side
- 28/03/2011 05:15:32 PM
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I've lived in a lot of cities and around a lot of dogs but never seen a feral dog pack.
- 28/03/2011 04:28:32 PM
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Are you serious?
- 28/03/2011 08:48:54 PM
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Re: Are you serious?
- 28/03/2011 08:53:50 PM
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Yeah, it's similar to arguing against antiterrorism by saying we haven't been recently attacked.
*NM*
- 28/03/2011 10:06:29 PM
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*NM*
- 28/03/2011 10:06:29 PM
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Except that we don't have millions of stray terrorists on Americas streets.
- 31/03/2011 11:19:13 PM
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It's not even certain that's lowering the stray population, but there are still enough for packs.
- 31/03/2011 11:17:59 PM
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I'm planning on volunteering at a no-kill shelter in NJ when I go.
- 27/03/2011 11:31:02 PM
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Sweet, and the prospect of volunteers at no kill shelters changes the economics greatly. *hugs*
- 28/03/2011 04:26:29 PM
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It is sad but what can you do?
- 28/03/2011 03:05:40 AM
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Well, that's one good idea right there.
- 28/03/2011 04:44:25 PM
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a vasectomy would probably cost more than neutering but still be simpler than being spayed
- 28/03/2011 06:37:17 PM
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Sounds like the difference would be negligible either way, but the results far more positive.
- 31/03/2011 10:47:10 PM
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I'm not sure how this would be helpful?
- 28/03/2011 06:04:26 PM
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I don't think it is wrong to neuter a dog for behavior reasons
- 28/03/2011 06:35:16 PM
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I was with you until...
- 28/03/2011 09:09:14 PM
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I said it was the cynical side of me not the rational side
- 28/03/2011 09:31:22 PM
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Liberals are bigger fans of animal control than conservatives?
- 28/03/2011 09:49:35 PM
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If you could only choose one, it would be better to choose the female.
- 28/03/2011 10:03:44 PM
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WHY??? *NM*
- 28/03/2011 10:08:30 PM
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Wait, no, you're right.
- 28/03/2011 10:13:58 PM
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no no you were right
- 29/03/2011 02:18:44 AM
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Ah, yeah. I was assuming 100% sterilization, which is unfeasible. Never mind. *NM*
- 29/03/2011 03:16:22 AM
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Ghavrel, nooooooooo! Give reason and ethics a chance first!
- 29/03/2011 03:27:29 AM
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I already said it makes sense to do both. I definitely support neutering!
- 29/03/2011 04:01:09 AM
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I think you just made my point
- 29/03/2011 02:16:19 AM
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Eh forget it. Not worth my time. *NM*
- 29/03/2011 03:10:03 AM
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proably true. I should know better than to fight faith with reason
- 29/03/2011 03:15:49 AM
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I'm not here to debate doggie sex *NM*
- 29/03/2011 03:15:56 AM
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that is good because from what I can tell the subject escapes you
- 29/03/2011 02:34:37 PM
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Considering that it's much harder to fix females than males
- 28/03/2011 10:07:47 PM
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how hard it is makes zero differience
- 29/03/2011 02:25:17 AM
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For the uneducated of us (i.e. me)
- 28/03/2011 09:40:07 PM
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Vasectomy: sterile but will still want to mate. Neutered: no mating behavior at all. *NM*
- 28/03/2011 09:56:41 PM
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