This chain of reasoning makes any minor event into a major, if not the major, factor of the war. It's clear that Enigma would have been decoded. The Poles had just done it extremely early on (prior to Hitler's rise) so others didn't have to.
Based on this logic, we could prove that France played a decisive role in the war, or even Yugoslavia - by overthrowing the pro-Nazi clique it forced a German invasion in April 1941 that delayed Barbarossa by one month, the one month that might have been crucial to the Soviet Union's survival.
In reality, did Yugoslavia play a decisive role in the war? No. It didn't. Hitler didn't have to invade Yugoslavia before attacking the Soviets. There is little evidence that Yugoslavia would have allowed British soldiers into its territory. Did Yugoslavia play a significant role in the war, by defecting from the Axis and then by the partisan resistance that tied down entire German divisions? Certainly.
Based on this logic, we could prove that France played a decisive role in the war, or even Yugoslavia - by overthrowing the pro-Nazi clique it forced a German invasion in April 1941 that delayed Barbarossa by one month, the one month that might have been crucial to the Soviet Union's survival.
In reality, did Yugoslavia play a decisive role in the war? No. It didn't. Hitler didn't have to invade Yugoslavia before attacking the Soviets. There is little evidence that Yugoslavia would have allowed British soldiers into its territory. Did Yugoslavia play a significant role in the war, by defecting from the Axis and then by the partisan resistance that tied down entire German divisions? Certainly.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Tom on 06/04/2011 at 07:04:40 PM
The myth of Polish cavalry charging tanks
06/04/2011 09:31:09 AM
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I find this slightly sad.
06/04/2011 10:23:08 AM
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Yeah, I know it's BS, but it's one of my favorrite weapons to use against Poles who harass me
06/04/2011 02:04:06 PM
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are you often harrassed by Poles? *NM*
06/04/2011 02:14:18 PM
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Many people don't appreciate what Germany has suffered at the hands of Poland.
06/04/2011 03:00:56 PM
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yes but I still wonder about the modering gangs of Poles who are harrassing people
06/04/2011 04:51:58 PM
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I am!
06/04/2011 07:19:16 PM
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There is something scewy going on with my PC and it keeps reloading pages
06/04/2011 08:46:08 PM
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"A decisive role"? What is Ben Macintyre smoking? And there's something wrong with the picture.
06/04/2011 03:01:00 PM
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He makes a fair point
06/04/2011 03:46:14 PM
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In all fairness, no he doesn't.
06/04/2011 07:02:56 PM
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I don't agree - you are relying on speculation
06/04/2011 07:19:19 PM
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No, YOU are relying on speculation
06/04/2011 11:13:10 PM
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I think you are a bit old to get away with the "No you are" line of argument
07/04/2011 11:16:50 AM
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Churchill saying "we won the war" is already a fantasy world.
07/04/2011 03:35:14 PM
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You think the allies lost? Erm... okay....
07/04/2011 04:41:49 PM
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I didn't say the Allies lost. I said the UK didn't really "win".
07/04/2011 05:31:10 PM
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You said Churchill was living in a fantasy land for saying we won, I believe?
08/04/2011 10:56:51 AM
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they still charged on a machine gun wielding infantry battalion ...
07/04/2011 02:06:02 AM
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They may have had better luck against the tanks
07/04/2011 03:38:40 AM
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Actually, no. The PzKpfw I didn't have a cannon, but rather a machine gun on the turret.
07/04/2011 04:58:20 AM
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My 8th grade history teacher was Polish and she embellished the myth.
07/04/2011 05:43:10 PM
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