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Er, check facts Isaac Send a noteboard - 14/04/2011 05:04:02 PM
Crap #1. During Clinton era, taxes were higher and we have surpluses. Almost all Clinton years we had balanced budget.


Yes, that is crap, during the Clinton/GOP congress years [congress is, ya know, a little bit involved in making budgets] we ran a 1.9 billion surplus in '99 and 86.4 billion in 2000... we also ran a deficit ever other year, most of those years the deficit exceeded the combined surplus of the last one each... I don't believe 2/8ths is 'almost all'

The middle class contributes the majority of the taxes collected by the Treasury

Crap #2. That's not true.


Yes it is from 2007 data but the tax rates are the same, yes? Middle-class households that earned between $34,300 and $141,900 paid 50.5 percent of all federal tax revenues in 2007 (the most recent year analyzed), according to the CBO study released Thursday, and households that earned between $34,300 and $352,900 paid 66.7 percent of all federal taxes.



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How can anyone seriously support Obama's budget proposals? Tom - 14/04/2011 02:49:30 PM 1223 Views
I agree with your overall point but I do question one of your facts random thoughts - 14/04/2011 03:25:25 PM 691 Views
Using IRS data for 2008: (most recent year for which data is available) Macharius - 14/04/2011 03:45:20 PM 720 Views
those numbers sem high. What is your source? *NM* random thoughts - 14/04/2011 05:05:26 PM 269 Views
You didn't interpret the spreadsheet correctly. I'm positive of that. Tom - 14/04/2011 06:08:39 PM 582 Views
I'm gonna have to jump on board the wagon with that being a bad figure, got some others Isaac - 14/04/2011 07:33:14 PM 765 Views
Some other income data for historical perspective, again CBO Isaac - 14/04/2011 07:45:13 PM 686 Views
Data: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/08in31mt.xls *NM* Macharius - 14/04/2011 08:32:42 PM 285 Views
That's a breakdown of who modifies their returns and how it affects revenue. Tom - 14/04/2011 09:15:21 PM 542 Views
I see. Well, nevermind then. *NM* Macharius - 15/04/2011 01:37:13 PM 273 Views
I believe you are questioning one of my definitions, not one of my facts. Tom - 14/04/2011 04:36:35 PM 633 Views
No matter how you define it I think it would be hard to call the top 5% middle class random thoughts - 14/04/2011 05:03:33 PM 651 Views
A family making $150,000 is not middle class? Tom - 14/04/2011 06:07:07 PM 652 Views
reading what you said again random thoughts - 14/04/2011 06:37:54 PM 608 Views
What a load of crap! Skeeve the Great - 14/04/2011 03:49:29 PM 766 Views
Yes, your response is a load of crap. Tom - 14/04/2011 04:55:20 PM 714 Views
Re: Yes, your response is a load of crap. Skeeve the Great - 14/04/2011 05:13:14 PM 777 Views
This is our first war without a tax increase. Tom - 14/04/2011 06:05:43 PM 692 Views
"Artful Dodgers" Skeeve the Great - 14/04/2011 06:30:58 PM 646 Views
Not giving me the information I need Tom - 14/04/2011 09:33:36 PM 619 Views
Er, check facts Isaac - 14/04/2011 05:04:02 PM 837 Views
Yeah, lets fact check Skeeve the Great - 14/04/2011 05:43:34 PM 692 Views
You understand you're actually supposed to cite data for a fact check right? Isaac - 14/04/2011 06:38:22 PM 844 Views
I'm not sure thats entirely right MalkierKnight - 14/04/2011 05:51:18 PM 935 Views
You basically just said what I said. How am I not right? Tom - 14/04/2011 05:56:08 PM 643 Views
Re: You basically just said what I said. How am I not right? MalkierKnight - 15/04/2011 02:48:07 AM 814 Views
A response Roland00 - 14/04/2011 06:33:49 PM 756 Views
I only have one thing to ask. callandor1000 - 15/04/2011 02:36:07 PM 611 Views
What about the farm subsidies and the military? Vivien - 15/04/2011 04:54:54 PM 629 Views
Re: What about the farm subsidies and the military? Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 08:21:16 PM 620 Views
Cutting the military isn't enough Roland00 - 16/04/2011 04:27:11 AM 609 Views
Defense is 60% of the discretionary budget as well, so it's more like 26% overall. Just sayin'. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/04/2011 04:53:30 AM 290 Views
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