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Erm, and you think total health care spending is not getting out of control? I'm a little confused. Legolas Send a noteboard - 16/04/2011 11:02:52 PM
As you can see, the projected grows in Medicaid and Medicare spending are in line with total health care spending. No jumps, no rapid changes. Will we see increase? Yes. Will we see increase in revenue? Yes. Will percentage of participants of both programs grow? Unsure. Remember that under these programs we are covering children, retired, poor and less fortunate as well. If we cut the programs, they poor will remain poor and less fortunate will remain less fortunate. The children won't be covered so that means more sick adults will eventually join the ranks of working force. Since we are cutting (under GOP proposals) environmental regulations, working conditions regulations, etc, it's likely that we'll get more sick and injured people as well. So yes, if we do this, the percentage of both programs participants may grow substantially and we will face the crisis.

Yes, your health care spending as a whole is spiraling out of control, not merely Medicaid and Medicare. Not sure what your point is there... and not sure how you can take those links you provide as evidence that that spending does not need to be reined in, either. See those graphs of total health care spending hitting 30% of GDP in 25 years time, and 50% in 70 years? That is a rather large problem looming there, and it will have to be dealt with one way or another, as I said. Of course if the US just had a European-style nationalized health-care system its problems would be far smaller, but it doesn't, and I'm not sure it's even possible to transition towards that; it certainly wouldn't be easy or cheap.

I don't generally side with trzaska on these things, but I do have to agree with him that a good part of what you're writing here is really nonsensical, your last two sentences in particular. Hyperbole doesn't even cover it. Reining in health care spending really is not going to translate to "let's stop giving health insurance to children", and deregulation isn't going to return working conditions to those of the nineteenth century, as you seem to think.
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Several basics facts about US Debt and Spending..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 04:41:55 AM 1299 Views
Well ... at least we've been here before ... ? The_Muted_Grimaud - 16/04/2011 06:41:00 AM 815 Views
Guess we should have okay'd those death panels for old people then. Big money saver. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:38:00 PM 425 Views
Yeah, those old people are draining the system..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 06:57:59 PM 830 Views
You're already worse off than much of Europe, honestly. Legolas - 16/04/2011 04:08:37 PM 931 Views
Re: You're already worse off than much of Europe, honestly. Tihs Tnuc - 17/04/2011 01:33:31 AM 944 Views
Balancing our budget would be easy. ranagrande - 16/04/2011 06:46:32 PM 765 Views
Several of those aren't as easy as you make it sound, but the import tax is a big no-no. Legolas - 16/04/2011 07:34:30 PM 981 Views
Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Isaac - 16/04/2011 08:17:26 PM 861 Views
Re: Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Macharius - 18/04/2011 01:59:44 PM 907 Views
Re: Also on the buying drugs from Canada idea Isaac - 18/04/2011 05:16:14 PM 1089 Views
Funny you mentioned WWII and 1968. Can you put tax rates at these times as well? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 07:50:09 PM 1235 Views
Not really. Even if you can substantially raise tax revenue, the entitlement problem remains. *NM* Legolas - 16/04/2011 08:25:26 PM 365 Views
Re: Not really. Even if you can substantially raise tax revenue, the entitlement problem remains. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 09:19:40 PM 894 Views
Have you ever looked at those projections for a decade or two hence? Legolas - 16/04/2011 10:13:12 PM 859 Views
Yes I have Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:44:50 PM 989 Views
Erm, and you think total health care spending is not getting out of control? I'm a little confused. Legolas - 16/04/2011 11:02:52 PM 922 Views
Yes it's going out of control Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:17:59 PM 875 Views
Good, we agree on that much then. Legolas - 17/04/2011 09:59:17 AM 830 Views
Exactly. Cutting back on fraud and waste doesn't really put much of a dent in those projections. *NM* Tom - 17/04/2011 02:31:13 AM 344 Views
Sorry, but that is a stupid opinion..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 08:38:35 PM 825 Views
Sounds like another bull. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 09:31:05 PM 1074 Views
Dude, the data is the data.....tax revenue increased all three times. trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 09:47:37 PM 1049 Views
As I suspected, it's a bull. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:02:05 PM 961 Views
Stop being a fool - read and react to the data provided, posting something..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:14:11 PM 714 Views
Response is Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:19:00 PM 927 Views
Good lord.....it's like talking to a brick. I really hope you are 12 or 13. trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:28:44 PM 932 Views
Re: Good lord.....it's like talking to a brick. I really hope you are 12 or 13. Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:47:24 PM 890 Views
I take it you mean "rate of revenue growth decreases". Legolas - 16/04/2011 11:11:19 PM 814 Views
Re: I take it you mean "rate of revenue growth decreases". Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:26:02 PM 951 Views
Additional point Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 11:37:17 PM 934 Views
It's not remarkable that revenue increased after the Reagan cuts. Tom - 17/04/2011 07:21:47 PM 1120 Views
I've just noticed that you've provided charts from Heritage Foundation! Are you f.. kidding me? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:13:46 PM 804 Views
All the data is via CBO - do you know that the CBO is? trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:16:08 PM 818 Views
Re: All the data is via CBO - do you know that the CBO is? Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:27:01 PM 929 Views
Nice try.....care to explain why the same exact thing happened..... trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 10:35:44 PM 746 Views
Re: Nice try.....care to explain why the same exact thing happened..... Skeeve the Great - 16/04/2011 10:49:33 PM 900 Views
Krugman is a shill for the Obama administration. Tom - 17/04/2011 02:34:50 AM 761 Views
Re: Krugman is a shill for the Obama administration. Skeeve the Great - 17/04/2011 03:50:24 AM 983 Views
Some obesrvations by Republican economists Skeeve the Great - 18/04/2011 12:27:04 AM 1121 Views
You mean the Keynesian economist who wrote The Failure of Reaganomics random thoughts - 18/04/2011 04:00:52 PM 762 Views
Re: You mean the Keynesian economist who wrote The Failure of Reaganomics Skeeve the Great - 18/04/2011 05:36:44 PM 747 Views
You use Krugman and then complain about the Heritage Foundation! Are you f.. kidding me? *NM* random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:46:47 AM 381 Views
Useless fact about our presidents since 1945. heartbreak - 17/04/2011 09:20:16 PM 1028 Views
Re: Several basics facts about US Debt and Spending..... Skeeve the Great - 20/04/2011 03:51:19 PM 1189 Views
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