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That's actually the big issue, in my view beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 02/05/2011 07:48:06 PM
The excuse we give for acting as we do in foreign matters is often that we're fighting for freedom, or democracy, or peace, or to save people. That moral high ground can vanish if we're not careful, and then it just turns into "We're doing this because we want to."
I amuse myself.
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As per ABC News - waterboarding worked in the locating/killing OBL..... trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 07:06:12 PM 1075 Views
Many other violent methods would have worked as well, I'm sure. nossy - 02/05/2011 07:41:58 PM 788 Views
That's actually the big issue, in my view beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 07:48:06 PM 748 Views
I have always been 100% okay with "torturing" the 4 terrorists via waterboarding..... trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 08:07:56 PM 745 Views
Yeah... but you think those 4 were the only ones? *NM* beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 08:11:48 PM 308 Views
I have no evidence/reason to think the government is lying about waterboarding. trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 08:18:34 PM 745 Views
Are you able to ask that w/o any sarcasm? nossy - 02/05/2011 09:29:41 PM 761 Views
Er, yes? beetnemesis - 03/05/2011 01:10:37 AM 730 Views
Of course torture sometimes works. beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 07:45:01 PM 749 Views
Ends, means, yadda, yadda, yadda. *NM* Dannymac - 02/05/2011 08:09:13 PM 310 Views
Nah, they probably got that tidbit withholding their daily Doritos ration. TaskmasterJack - 02/05/2011 08:28:49 PM 770 Views
Unless you can provide an actual link, this is just speculation by commentators. *NM* Variant - 02/05/2011 09:48:55 PM 350 Views
I beleive if they hadn't torture them, we would've got the info much earlier Skeeve the Great - 02/05/2011 10:39:02 PM 1103 Views
You have ifs and maybes, I have the facts and what happened. Waterboarding won this round. trzaska2000 - 03/05/2011 04:07:24 AM 763 Views
You can wish. Waterboarding did nothing to help. *NM* Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 07:36:40 AM 326 Views
Quotes about so-called "waterboarding help" Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 04:00:13 PM 761 Views
post your facts if you have them. so far you have offered nothing.... *NM* moondog - 03/05/2011 04:16:03 PM 335 Views
you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? random thoughts - 03/05/2011 05:26:53 PM 836 Views
Re: you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 08:12:37 PM 919 Views
Leon Panette disagrees with you random thoughts - 06/05/2011 04:12:24 PM 864 Views
Epic. Dragonsoul - 02/05/2011 10:46:39 PM 794 Views
Well, according to Rumsfeld, waterboarding connection is bullshit. Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 01:07:58 AM 1038 Views
Having a Pakistani government not in complicity with AQ would be better than waterboarding. *NM* Macharius - 03/05/2011 02:13:56 PM 311 Views
Any actual facts on this yet? snoopcester - 03/05/2011 04:04:38 PM 727 Views
it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today moondog - 03/05/2011 04:18:29 PM 740 Views
Re: it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today dart_board - 06/05/2011 12:43:26 PM 849 Views
torture was against our beliefs the first 225 years of our existence.... moondog - 06/05/2011 04:16:19 PM 704 Views
horseshit random thoughts - 06/05/2011 04:14:57 PM 729 Views
come on you know torture doesn't work. The experts said so *NM* random thoughts - 03/05/2011 05:13:12 PM 333 Views
Water boarding is not torture dart_board - 06/05/2011 12:41:06 PM 674 Views
Re: Water boarding is not torture Skeeve the Great - 06/05/2011 06:25:33 PM 760 Views
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