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Hopefully, and presumably respectable parenting skills. Joel Send a noteboard - 06/05/2011 01:32:02 AM
I know I've been bemoaning ignorance of history, especially recent history, a lot lately, but how can you NOT know who Osama bin Laden was? It hasn't even been a decade since the World Trade Center was destroyed (I'll wait for those up late on a school night to google that... good, now where were we?) We're not talking about some yak hunter in the middle of Tibet somewhere (actually, they probably all know who he was). We're talking about people who are clearly well connected to the rest of the world, especially including the internet, if they made "Who is Osama bin Laden?" the fifth most popular Yahoo search on Sunday. They have access to knowledge, just not the KNOWLEDGE. Among those 13-17 (or 4-8 when the WTC went down), people asking who he was outnumbered those asking how he died two to one. I promise you that when the Ayatollah Khomeini died I didn't have to ask anyone who he was, notwithstanding the fact I was only 14. Geez, people... I dunno... if there's actually a demographic where more people know who Justin Bieber is than know who bin Laden was maybe the West HAS gotten too decadent.... :rolleyes:

My daughter didn't exactly understand who bin Laden was, she knew he was a bad dude, we just had this discussion over dinner actually. She knew from School, he had an option to surrender peacefully. and Shae is 10. we talked about why someone would intentionally try to kill other people...It's a pretty big world, why...for what end? I didn't have any answers for that one. b/c I don't understand the mindset to train hundreds, thousands of people to kill other people, and claim it in the name of your g-d. Did he use the brains Allah gave him to improve the lives of his Islamic brothers and sisters? I don't think so, I could be wrong, I've been wrong before and I shall be wrong again. Americans may be weary of Muslims, But we've learned a lot about their culture Some have grown more respectful. Not out of fear, out of tolerance, I hope. On a side note, Shae was the only child in her class that admitted knowing who Elvis Presley was.:P

That's even more disappointing in some ways. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I don't expect teenagers to obsessively pore over every single detail of current events, foreign affairs or terrorism. I wouldn't want them to spend their childhood cowering in fear under their beds, or their parents to ensure they did. That said, the level of complacency and ignorance of large scale serious threats represented by THAT many kids having to google his name is disturbing on many levels. It kind of makes it easier to understand how, despite the Al Qaeda attack on the WTC in '93, there was so much shock in 2001 that it was even attacked, let alone destroyed. Makes it easier to understand why the second attack succeeded despite so much of their plans, procedures and tactics being common knowledge. I can't help wondering if these kids know how we're never more than about fifteen minutes from a nuclear holocaust, and being very pessimistic about efforts to avert such horrors, make them impossible, in the face of such widespread ignorance and apathy. I'm not saying we should all dwell on the negative, but we should all be aware of it when it can have such dire personal consequences that our collective will could and should prevent. Seriously, there are more important things than iCrap in the world, kids.... :[
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OK, Once and for All, WTF Is WRONG with Kids Today? - 04/05/2011 01:28:52 AM 1793 Views
Cool story bro. *NM* - 04/05/2011 01:35:29 AM 573 Views
Clearly not. - 04/05/2011 02:16:08 AM 1187 Views
Re: Duh. Winning. *NM* - 04/05/2011 01:46:39 AM 616 Views
The SEALS won. - 04/05/2011 02:17:41 AM 1053 Views
They read Boing Boing. *NM* - 04/05/2011 01:57:17 AM 644 Views
And use Yahoo, apparently. - 04/05/2011 02:20:36 AM 1282 Views
I guess I have a pretty bright Child. and a good school district. - 04/05/2011 04:28:24 AM 1074 Views
Hopefully, and presumably respectable parenting skills. - 06/05/2011 01:32:02 AM 1256 Views
You really have to wonder if our culture is decadent? *NM* - 04/05/2011 06:24:25 AM 596 Views
Not at all, but it does make me wonder if we're TOO decadent. - 06/05/2011 01:38:42 AM 1095 Views
I agree. *NM* - 09/05/2011 10:36:40 PM 673 Views
How is it the kids' fault that they are not taught (to care) about recent history? *NM* - 04/05/2011 06:54:16 AM 552 Views
I just asked my son, and he said he was a boss of a criminal organisation who was responsible for - 04/05/2011 06:56:18 AM 1091 Views
Good enough for me, thanks. - 06/05/2011 01:59:40 AM 1094 Views
Yes and no, but I'd think an international network trying to kill you would motivate self education. - 06/05/2011 01:57:06 AM 1221 Views
Good teachers don't allow overeager students to monopolize the classroom. - 06/05/2011 02:52:27 AM 1228 Views
We covered the material. - 06/05/2011 02:57:52 AM 1274 Views
Which means... not a good teacher. - 06/05/2011 07:02:44 AM 973 Views
Good luck with that. - 06/05/2011 11:51:48 PM 1136 Views
If they don't know about the terrorist organisation to begin with, why would they self educate? - 13/05/2011 08:06:07 AM 1099 Views
If completely ignorant of terrorism itself, they wouldn't, but if not I'd expect they'd get informed - 14/05/2011 03:01:37 AM 1070 Views
What?!? There are terrorists roaming the US, killing kids in their beds?!? - 14/05/2011 07:45:27 AM 1218 Views
They're certainly trying. - 14/05/2011 10:43:48 AM 1112 Views
Oklahoma city bombing was by American citizens, completely unrelated to Al Qaeda... - 15/05/2011 08:02:11 AM 1310 Views
They were both terrorist attacks. - 15/05/2011 02:53:51 PM 1317 Views
Obesity is a much bigger killer than terrorists - 15/05/2011 04:01:51 PM 1142 Views
Sure, but obesity covers a lot of ground. - 15/05/2011 04:19:51 PM 1127 Views
Obesity is a new problem - 15/05/2011 06:09:33 PM 1125 Views
only about a third of the home schooled kids are home schooled for religious reasons - 16/05/2011 09:35:36 PM 1205 Views
Fair enough... I can imagine wanting to avoid a crappy school. - 17/05/2011 06:04:11 PM 1096 Views
getting your kid in the right school can be a challenge - 17/05/2011 06:18:04 PM 971 Views
how many times have i told you "it's the internet, it's not real life"?? *NM* - 04/05/2011 07:43:01 AM 584 Views
Sure, but in this case they intersect. - 06/05/2011 02:02:19 AM 1181 Views
I met a lady who didn't know who Justin Bieber was. I told her I was very impressed - 04/05/2011 06:49:49 PM 1192 Views
You should be? - 06/05/2011 02:09:47 AM 1221 Views
He may have been dreaming about killing them but he was actually doing anything *NM* - 06/05/2011 03:09:49 AM 609 Views
The short answer is "yes". - 06/05/2011 03:19:31 AM 1080 Views
you would of have had to know who he is to know he was doing that though *NM* - 08/05/2011 06:16:39 PM 554 Views
Yes, and the fact he WAS doing that is why I expected nearly everyone to know who he was. - 08/05/2011 07:12:41 PM 1107 Views
I am not saying they shouldn't know who he is just that is isn't that shocking that some don't - 09/05/2011 02:35:02 PM 981 Views
I get that, it's the size of the "some" that kinda floors me. - 09/05/2011 05:02:46 PM 1109 Views
Rumsfeld was a bit of a tool but he was right about a lot of stuff - 09/05/2011 05:05:56 PM 1023 Views
I did think he took heat unfairly for that comment; he's an interesting figure. - 09/05/2011 05:59:58 PM 1210 Views
see that is why political comedy isn't really comedy - 10/05/2011 02:15:48 PM 1109 Views
He was a college offensive lineman. - 12/05/2011 01:47:52 AM 1137 Views
It was the media tqaking offense not just internet nutjobs - 13/05/2011 04:16:34 AM 1231 Views
You're "the media" now? - 13/05/2011 10:27:42 PM 1214 Views
you live in a fantasy world *NM* - 16/05/2011 02:27:20 PM 575 Views
Not a rebuttal. - 16/05/2011 09:10:33 PM 1094 Views
I am trying to be more concise and that summed it up *NM* - 16/05/2011 09:26:32 PM 567 Views
Concise is nice, but that response was solely about me rather than my arguments. - 18/05/2011 11:30:38 PM 1062 Views
No it was about your reply I am just to lazy to break it down - 19/05/2011 12:54:38 AM 1044 Views
"You live in a fantasy world" is 100% about me. - 19/05/2011 01:53:07 AM 890 Views
OK *NM* - 19/05/2011 03:15:04 PM 528 Views
Check. - 20/05/2011 12:08:24 AM 1365 Views
13-17 year olds. - 05/05/2011 01:51:27 AM 1290 Views
Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. - 06/05/2011 02:53:26 AM 1137 Views
Re: Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. - 06/05/2011 09:21:10 PM 1166 Views
As I asked below, did you click the link? - 06/05/2011 11:35:45 PM 987 Views
Re: As I asked below, did you click the link? - 09/05/2011 05:37:29 AM 1000 Views
And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. - 09/05/2011 07:50:32 AM 1306 Views
Re: And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. - 11/05/2011 02:52:45 PM 1276 Views
Thanks for the mis-analogizing. - 10/05/2011 06:26:40 AM 1499 Views
Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 10/05/2011 07:02:31 AM 1101 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 10/05/2011 04:58:59 PM 1125 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 12/05/2011 01:22:38 AM 1091 Views
Re: 13-17 year olds. - 06/05/2011 09:14:47 PM 1101 Views
What are you doing to earn a living now? *NM* - 05/05/2011 03:04:28 AM 570 Views
Jeg øver norsk, men ikke mer nå. - 06/05/2011 02:54:44 AM 1096 Views
Debt collection is kind - 06/05/2011 07:16:53 AM 1024 Views
Just don't repeatedly say you're seriously buying tickets to come kill them. - 06/05/2011 11:40:51 PM 1009 Views
Theres a reason you're banned from skype chat. Dont be a cunt - 07/05/2011 02:22:30 AM 1059 Views
it must be a very good reason if they haven't banned you as well - 09/05/2011 05:09:07 PM 1046 Views
And that is your analysis? Really. Kids sure are dumb to ask questions and do research. - 06/05/2011 10:15:41 PM 1012 Views
I wish there were an applause smiley. - 06/05/2011 11:02:01 PM 1091 Views
I don't think the article says much of anything at all. - 07/05/2011 03:28:35 AM 929 Views
Maybe; I don't always appreciate deadpan jokes online.... - 07/05/2011 03:43:51 AM 1191 Views
I think the linguistic conventions governing search engines and typical conversation differ is all. - 07/05/2011 04:00:38 AM 1046 Views
Hopefully that's all it is. - 07/05/2011 04:17:21 AM 1014 Views
actually, search engines are getting better towards "questions" now - 11/05/2011 11:06:42 PM 1013 Views
Fair enough then, if surprising; objection withdrawn. - 12/05/2011 01:17:28 AM 1135 Views
I think you're reading too much into this - 10/05/2011 12:58:20 AM 1132 Views
Possibly; I really hope so. - 10/05/2011 04:01:50 AM 1045 Views
Re: Possibly; I really hope so. - 10/05/2011 05:18:43 AM 1142 Views
Again, fair enough. - 12/05/2011 01:52:07 AM 1084 Views
Re: Again, fair enough. - 12/05/2011 02:04:53 AM 1119 Views
Acknowledged. - 12/05/2011 02:41:38 AM 1075 Views
HA! - 12/05/2011 10:50:50 PM 1252 Views

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