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Yes and no, but I'd think an international network trying to kill you would motivate self education. Joel Send a noteboard - 06/05/2011 01:57:06 AM
There are lots of ways to look at it, so the question as you put it isn't an easy one to answer.

On the one hand, a lot of education, including history, is notoriously unengaging even when the topic itself is fascinating. Unfortunately, a lot of teachers have a knack for making even things like WWII far less captivating for students than it was for combatants, and that's not the kids fault.

On the other hand, while rebellious juvenile disinterest in and disrespect for everything they feel their elders foolishly but falsely consider important is inevitable in every generation, that doesn't excuse it. Parents and educators can only do so much to attract and hold the attention of kids contemptuous of values and priorities dismissed as outmoded and obsolete.

Most of the time neither educators nor students fit neatly into such broad generalizations. I had a few bad history teachers in school reduce the Age of Discovery and the Renaissance to the most tedious rote memorization of names, dates and places; more common were good history teachers whose other students regularly thanked me for engaging them in detailed discussion of some pivotal historic event for the entire class period and thereby allowing my fellow students to enjoy their walkman, hit on each other and generally avoid learning anything for an hour. The system isn't perfect, and teachers have to make an effort to engage often apathetic students by any means necessary; those who don't make the effort get the bulk of the blame for not trying, but those who do can't force their students to care about the subject.

All of THAT said, I'm not sure anything teenagers are old enough to remember if they weren't too busy with more important trivia qualifies as "recent history". That seems closer to "current events", or at least recent events. Getting back to my subject line, I think the rule of thumb should be that if the person who murdered thousands in the middle of your country is still out there trying to murder you and anyone else they can find, it's not history. More importantly, anyone with more important things to do than pay attention to the international group trying to murder them has a great chance of being murdered, not without notice, just without noticing.
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I agree. *NM* - 09/05/2011 10:36:40 PM 701 Views
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Good enough for me, thanks. - 06/05/2011 01:59:40 AM 1150 Views
Yes and no, but I'd think an international network trying to kill you would motivate self education. - 06/05/2011 01:57:06 AM 1274 Views
Good teachers don't allow overeager students to monopolize the classroom. - 06/05/2011 02:52:27 AM 1282 Views
We covered the material. - 06/05/2011 02:57:52 AM 1321 Views
Which means... not a good teacher. - 06/05/2011 07:02:44 AM 1034 Views
Good luck with that. - 06/05/2011 11:51:48 PM 1190 Views
If they don't know about the terrorist organisation to begin with, why would they self educate? - 13/05/2011 08:06:07 AM 1157 Views
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What?!? There are terrorists roaming the US, killing kids in their beds?!? - 14/05/2011 07:45:27 AM 1289 Views
They're certainly trying. - 14/05/2011 10:43:48 AM 1171 Views
Oklahoma city bombing was by American citizens, completely unrelated to Al Qaeda... - 15/05/2011 08:02:11 AM 1363 Views
They were both terrorist attacks. - 15/05/2011 02:53:51 PM 1380 Views
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Obesity is a new problem - 15/05/2011 06:09:33 PM 1172 Views
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how many times have i told you "it's the internet, it's not real life"?? *NM* - 04/05/2011 07:43:01 AM 610 Views
Sure, but in this case they intersect. - 06/05/2011 02:02:19 AM 1234 Views
I met a lady who didn't know who Justin Bieber was. I told her I was very impressed - 04/05/2011 06:49:49 PM 1243 Views
You should be? - 06/05/2011 02:09:47 AM 1276 Views
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The short answer is "yes". - 06/05/2011 03:19:31 AM 1153 Views
you would of have had to know who he is to know he was doing that though *NM* - 08/05/2011 06:16:39 PM 584 Views
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see that is why political comedy isn't really comedy - 10/05/2011 02:15:48 PM 1205 Views
He was a college offensive lineman. - 12/05/2011 01:47:52 AM 1198 Views
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You're "the media" now? - 13/05/2011 10:27:42 PM 1270 Views
you live in a fantasy world *NM* - 16/05/2011 02:27:20 PM 601 Views
Not a rebuttal. - 16/05/2011 09:10:33 PM 1141 Views
I am trying to be more concise and that summed it up *NM* - 16/05/2011 09:26:32 PM 593 Views
Concise is nice, but that response was solely about me rather than my arguments. - 18/05/2011 11:30:38 PM 1120 Views
No it was about your reply I am just to lazy to break it down - 19/05/2011 12:54:38 AM 1100 Views
"You live in a fantasy world" is 100% about me. - 19/05/2011 01:53:07 AM 939 Views
OK *NM* - 19/05/2011 03:15:04 PM 554 Views
Check. - 20/05/2011 12:08:24 AM 1424 Views
13-17 year olds. - 05/05/2011 01:51:27 AM 1341 Views
Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. - 06/05/2011 02:53:26 AM 1196 Views
Re: Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. - 06/05/2011 09:21:10 PM 1223 Views
As I asked below, did you click the link? - 06/05/2011 11:35:45 PM 1037 Views
Re: As I asked below, did you click the link? - 09/05/2011 05:37:29 AM 1068 Views
And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. - 09/05/2011 07:50:32 AM 1359 Views
Re: And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. - 11/05/2011 02:52:45 PM 1331 Views
Thanks for the mis-analogizing. - 10/05/2011 06:26:40 AM 1557 Views
Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 10/05/2011 07:02:31 AM 1160 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 10/05/2011 04:58:59 PM 1183 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 12/05/2011 01:22:38 AM 1145 Views
Re: 13-17 year olds. - 06/05/2011 09:14:47 PM 1163 Views
What are you doing to earn a living now? *NM* - 05/05/2011 03:04:28 AM 599 Views
Jeg øver norsk, men ikke mer nå. - 06/05/2011 02:54:44 AM 1141 Views
Debt collection is kind - 06/05/2011 07:16:53 AM 1078 Views
Just don't repeatedly say you're seriously buying tickets to come kill them. - 06/05/2011 11:40:51 PM 1070 Views
Theres a reason you're banned from skype chat. Dont be a cunt - 07/05/2011 02:22:30 AM 1113 Views
it must be a very good reason if they haven't banned you as well - 09/05/2011 05:09:07 PM 1101 Views
And that is your analysis? Really. Kids sure are dumb to ask questions and do research. - 06/05/2011 10:15:41 PM 1071 Views
I wish there were an applause smiley. - 06/05/2011 11:02:01 PM 1149 Views
I don't think the article says much of anything at all. - 07/05/2011 03:28:35 AM 985 Views
Maybe; I don't always appreciate deadpan jokes online.... - 07/05/2011 03:43:51 AM 1246 Views
I think the linguistic conventions governing search engines and typical conversation differ is all. - 07/05/2011 04:00:38 AM 1110 Views
Hopefully that's all it is. - 07/05/2011 04:17:21 AM 1074 Views
actually, search engines are getting better towards "questions" now - 11/05/2011 11:06:42 PM 1065 Views
Fair enough then, if surprising; objection withdrawn. - 12/05/2011 01:17:28 AM 1184 Views
I think you're reading too much into this - 10/05/2011 12:58:20 AM 1184 Views
Possibly; I really hope so. - 10/05/2011 04:01:50 AM 1101 Views
Re: Possibly; I really hope so. - 10/05/2011 05:18:43 AM 1197 Views
Again, fair enough. - 12/05/2011 01:52:07 AM 1138 Views
Re: Again, fair enough. - 12/05/2011 02:04:53 AM 1177 Views
Acknowledged. - 12/05/2011 02:41:38 AM 1131 Views
HA! - 12/05/2011 10:50:50 PM 1307 Views

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