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Re: Educated about how to conduct them, or how they ARE conducted? callandor1000 Send a noteboard - 12/05/2011 04:50:23 AM
"Who is Osama bin Laden?" is a good way to conduct a google search if you are seeking general information about him beyond "he's the leader of Al Qaeda who bombed us on 9/11"

I'm not sure why you think that people should be familiar with much more than that. I'm willing to bet that even people in NYC at the time of the attack aren't intimately familiar with his personal history. The majority certainly would not know more than what the news told them (which the news has not talked about in a while, so kids would not know it).

Really, you should commend teenagers for using this as a prompt to investigate his history.

Let me assure YOU I'm familiar with the former, but I can't say I have detailed knowledge of how people in general conduct them; I haven't asked around much, but what knowledge I have of peoples search habits was acquired that way. If they were seeking to expand existing basic knowledge, fine, my bad, but the question suggested otherwise to me, hence my shock.


This is because you don't really think further than your first thought. First thought in reading something like what you first saw would be "oh, look at all the stupid, lazy children". But, if you have the slightest shred of faith in humanity and people in general, you would would take a few seconds (thats all it honestly takes) to come up with logical conclusions or theories. But from your replies, you never quite made it that far.

I've been known to just go with my initial reaction before. I've done it quite often on here and thats one of the reasons I've posted less for a while. Thinking through my responses and the topics for seconds more (like I do all the time in real life) quickly shows that my initial reaction may not be wrong but has lots of holes in it. Then I'm just too lazy to fill them in, but thats a different issue than whats at hand. Stop assuming that you actually know things in your initial reaction and thoughts, add a new layer. Think more critically, not just in a manor that says "I'm a knowledge snob" or more often your "Look at me, I'm always correct". You can be and often are wrong. But then, everyone is. Thats life. You're no better than anyone else on here, don't act as you are anymore.

Your mom. That's right. The cat is out of the bag. Your mom.

My mind isn't always in the gutter, it just has VIP access
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OK, Once and for All, WTF Is WRONG with Kids Today? Joel - 04/05/2011 01:28:52 AM 1771 Views
Cool story bro. *NM* Ghavrel - 04/05/2011 01:35:29 AM 565 Views
Clearly not. Joel - 04/05/2011 02:16:08 AM 1163 Views
Re: Duh. Winning. *NM* Gaps - 04/05/2011 01:46:39 AM 607 Views
The SEALS won. Joel - 04/05/2011 02:17:41 AM 1029 Views
They read Boing Boing. *NM* Chas - 04/05/2011 01:57:17 AM 635 Views
And use Yahoo, apparently. Joel - 04/05/2011 02:20:36 AM 1258 Views
I guess I have a pretty bright Child. and a good school district. StarrBecca - 04/05/2011 04:28:24 AM 1050 Views
Hopefully, and presumably respectable parenting skills. Joel - 06/05/2011 01:32:02 AM 1234 Views
You really have to wonder if our culture is decadent? *NM* Panorphaeon - 04/05/2011 06:24:25 AM 587 Views
Not at all, but it does make me wonder if we're TOO decadent. Joel - 06/05/2011 01:38:42 AM 1073 Views
I agree. *NM* Panorphaeon - 09/05/2011 10:36:40 PM 665 Views
Hope for the best and plan for the worst, I suppose, but that's what unnerved me here. Joel - 10/05/2011 03:14:24 AM 1121 Views
How is it the kids' fault that they are not taught (to care) about recent history? *NM* Helene - 04/05/2011 06:54:16 AM 542 Views
I just asked my son, and he said he was a boss of a criminal organisation who was responsible for Helene - 04/05/2011 06:56:18 AM 1067 Views
Good enough for me, thanks. Joel - 06/05/2011 01:59:40 AM 1069 Views
Yes and no, but I'd think an international network trying to kill you would motivate self education. Joel - 06/05/2011 01:57:06 AM 1197 Views
Good teachers don't allow overeager students to monopolize the classroom. Ghavrel - 06/05/2011 02:52:27 AM 1205 Views
We covered the material. Joel - 06/05/2011 02:57:52 AM 1248 Views
Which means... not a good teacher. Ghavrel - 06/05/2011 07:02:44 AM 953 Views
Good luck with that. Joel - 06/05/2011 11:51:48 PM 1113 Views
If they don't know about the terrorist organisation to begin with, why would they self educate? Helene - 13/05/2011 08:06:07 AM 1079 Views
If completely ignorant of terrorism itself, they wouldn't, but if not I'd expect they'd get informed Joel - 14/05/2011 03:01:37 AM 1047 Views
What?!? There are terrorists roaming the US, killing kids in their beds?!? Helene - 14/05/2011 07:45:27 AM 1190 Views
They're certainly trying. Joel - 14/05/2011 10:43:48 AM 1086 Views
Oklahoma city bombing was by American citizens, completely unrelated to Al Qaeda... Helene - 15/05/2011 08:02:11 AM 1288 Views
They were both terrorist attacks. Joel - 15/05/2011 02:53:51 PM 1295 Views
Obesity is a much bigger killer than terrorists Helene - 15/05/2011 04:01:51 PM 1120 Views
Sure, but obesity covers a lot of ground. Joel - 15/05/2011 04:19:51 PM 1105 Views
Obesity is a new problem Helene - 15/05/2011 06:09:33 PM 1100 Views
I gave you my explanation, but can reiterate it. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:00:03 PM 1150 Views
For god's sake... I didn't attribute all of obesity to sugar addiction. Helene - 15/05/2011 08:10:44 PM 965 Views
No, you blamed advertising and bad schools, too. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:20:32 PM 1027 Views
That's because you are incredibly annoying and I am wondering if you will ever not reply Helene - 15/05/2011 08:26:12 PM 1119 Views
An odd reason to stereotype the third most populous nation on Earth. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:52:57 PM 1072 Views
only about a third of the home schooled kids are home schooled for religious reasons random thoughts - 16/05/2011 09:35:36 PM 1181 Views
Fair enough... I can imagine wanting to avoid a crappy school. Helene - 17/05/2011 06:04:11 PM 1077 Views
getting your kid in the right school can be a challenge random thoughts - 17/05/2011 06:18:04 PM 947 Views
how many times have i told you "it's the internet, it's not real life"?? *NM* moondog - 04/05/2011 07:43:01 AM 571 Views
Sure, but in this case they intersect. Joel - 06/05/2011 02:02:19 AM 1158 Views
I met a lady who didn't know who Justin Bieber was. I told her I was very impressed random thoughts - 04/05/2011 06:49:49 PM 1169 Views
You should be? Joel - 06/05/2011 02:09:47 AM 1203 Views
He may have been dreaming about killing them but he was actually doing anything *NM* random thoughts - 06/05/2011 03:09:49 AM 599 Views
The short answer is "yes". Joel - 06/05/2011 03:19:31 AM 1060 Views
you would of have had to know who he is to know he was doing that though *NM* random thoughts - 08/05/2011 06:16:39 PM 544 Views
Yes, and the fact he WAS doing that is why I expected nearly everyone to know who he was. Joel - 08/05/2011 07:12:41 PM 1088 Views
I am not saying they shouldn't know who he is just that is isn't that shocking that some don't random thoughts - 09/05/2011 02:35:02 PM 957 Views
I get that, it's the size of the "some" that kinda floors me. Joel - 09/05/2011 05:02:46 PM 1085 Views
Rumsfeld was a bit of a tool but he was right about a lot of stuff random thoughts - 09/05/2011 05:05:56 PM 997 Views
I did think he took heat unfairly for that comment; he's an interesting figure. Joel - 09/05/2011 05:59:58 PM 1186 Views
see that is why political comedy isn't really comedy random thoughts - 10/05/2011 02:15:48 PM 1076 Views
He was a college offensive lineman. Joel - 12/05/2011 01:47:52 AM 1117 Views
It was the media tqaking offense not just internet nutjobs random thoughts - 13/05/2011 04:16:34 AM 1205 Views
You're "the media" now? Joel - 13/05/2011 10:27:42 PM 1195 Views
you live in a fantasy world *NM* random thoughts - 16/05/2011 02:27:20 PM 564 Views
Not a rebuttal. Joel - 16/05/2011 09:10:33 PM 1070 Views
I am trying to be more concise and that summed it up *NM* random thoughts - 16/05/2011 09:26:32 PM 557 Views
Concise is nice, but that response was solely about me rather than my arguments. Joel - 18/05/2011 11:30:38 PM 1043 Views
No it was about your reply I am just to lazy to break it down random thoughts - 19/05/2011 12:54:38 AM 1016 Views
"You live in a fantasy world" is 100% about me. Joel - 19/05/2011 01:53:07 AM 873 Views
OK *NM* random thoughts - 19/05/2011 03:15:04 PM 519 Views
Check. Joel - 20/05/2011 12:08:24 AM 1346 Views
13-17 year olds. Kronin al'Sulc - 05/05/2011 01:51:27 AM 1260 Views
Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. Joel - 06/05/2011 02:53:26 AM 1106 Views
Re: Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. callandor1000 - 06/05/2011 09:21:10 PM 1144 Views
As I asked below, did you click the link? Joel - 06/05/2011 11:35:45 PM 968 Views
Re: As I asked below, did you click the link? callandor1000 - 09/05/2011 05:37:29 AM 981 Views
And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. Joel - 09/05/2011 07:50:32 AM 1274 Views
Re: And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. callandor1000 - 11/05/2011 02:52:45 PM 1256 Views
Well, based on the consensus, I can't really argue with that first line. Joel - 11/05/2011 11:33:53 PM 1164 Views
well then, let us who've somewhat recently been educated as to internet searches assure you... LadyLorraine - 11/05/2011 11:41:54 PM 1006 Views
Educated about how to conduct them, or how they ARE conducted? Joel - 12/05/2011 01:13:25 AM 1066 Views
Re: Educated about how to conduct them, or how they ARE conducted? callandor1000 - 12/05/2011 04:50:23 AM 1025 Views
So we're back to criticizing claims of superiority I've never made? Joel - 14/05/2011 07:06:10 AM 1302 Views
Thanks for the mis-analogizing. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/05/2011 06:26:40 AM 1473 Views
Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. Joel - 10/05/2011 07:02:31 AM 1080 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/05/2011 04:58:59 PM 1099 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. Joel - 12/05/2011 01:22:38 AM 1070 Views
Re: 13-17 year olds. callandor1000 - 06/05/2011 09:14:47 PM 1072 Views
What are you doing to earn a living now? *NM* Urza - 05/05/2011 03:04:28 AM 561 Views
Jeg øver norsk, men ikke mer nå. Joel - 06/05/2011 02:54:44 AM 1074 Views
Debt collection is kind Urza - 06/05/2011 07:16:53 AM 1008 Views
Just don't repeatedly say you're seriously buying tickets to come kill them. Joel - 06/05/2011 11:40:51 PM 989 Views
Theres a reason you're banned from skype chat. Dont be a cunt Urza - 07/05/2011 02:22:30 AM 1036 Views
You threadjacked me to take a potshot, so I don't want to hear it. Joel - 07/05/2011 03:57:47 AM 1117 Views
it must be a very good reason if they haven't banned you as well random thoughts - 09/05/2011 05:09:07 PM 1022 Views
Joel decided it would be fun to blackmail us with filing a false poilce report. *NM* Urza - 10/05/2011 12:07:46 AM 581 Views
I sent Skype the log; they said to contact the police. Joel - 10/05/2011 03:54:51 AM 1203 Views
Re: I sent Skype the log; they said to contact the police. Camilla - 15/05/2011 11:55:23 AM 1004 Views
I think most of the relevant details have been covered here. Joel - 15/05/2011 04:06:09 PM 1147 Views
Silly laptops.... *NM* Joel - 15/05/2011 04:11:38 PM 567 Views
Now I am certainly not going into skype chat. Camilla - 17/05/2011 10:36:04 AM 1017 Views
Can't say I blame you, but that's always a possibility online. Joel - 17/05/2011 05:07:23 PM 989 Views
Re: Can't say I blame you, but that's always a possibility online. Novo - 19/05/2011 12:59:14 AM 1318 Views
For people who categorically objected to all bans of any kind ya'll embraced them very abruptly. Joel - 19/05/2011 01:50:26 AM 1441 Views
You failed to respond to the main thrust of my argument, but, whatevs. Novo - 19/05/2011 03:01:07 AM 1060 Views
I did, but will try again; then I'm done with this subject and rebutting Adams false accusations. Joel - 19/05/2011 03:51:24 AM 977 Views
I joked to Roh "If I kill him will you be my alibi... Great, I'm pricing tickets on travelocity now! Urza - 17/05/2011 12:02:28 AM 1113 Views
That sounds ridiculous. *NM* Helene - 17/05/2011 06:06:39 PM 557 Views
When did I ask for attention, niceness or an apology? Joel - 18/05/2011 11:28:12 PM 1118 Views
It is nice to see even without chat the chat drama still seems to bleed into the main pages *NM* random thoughts - 10/05/2011 02:17:11 PM 626 Views
And that is your analysis? Really. Kids sure are dumb to ask questions and do research. Vivien - 06/05/2011 10:15:41 PM 990 Views
I wish there were an applause smiley. Ghavrel - 06/05/2011 11:02:01 PM 1068 Views
No, but any kid whose research beings by finding out who he even WAS is dumb, period. Joel - 06/05/2011 11:31:08 PM 1007 Views
Any kid whos research doesnt start by finding out who he was must have been born with the knowledge. Urza - 06/05/2011 11:39:56 PM 1169 Views
Finding out, yes; finding out by actively searching, no. Joel - 06/05/2011 11:42:34 PM 1057 Views
You and I turned on CNN one morning to see the WTC burning. *NM* Urza - 07/05/2011 02:05:26 AM 614 Views
Again I cite the attempted "Christmas bombing" in 2009. Joel - 07/05/2011 04:01:27 AM 1039 Views
Any rational person wouldn't do a yahoo search. Other than that, the questions you posed are Helene - 15/05/2011 11:28:02 AM 983 Views
So their search engine makes them dumb, but their questions are OK. Joel - 15/05/2011 02:57:27 PM 975 Views
By gods, you are hopeless to talk to. *NM* Helene - 15/05/2011 03:56:27 PM 552 Views
I repeat, one of us certainly is. Joel - 15/05/2011 04:20:07 PM 1148 Views
If you learned people are sometimes flippant Helene - 15/05/2011 06:13:52 PM 1060 Views
I'm sometimes flippant, too, but have always been adherent of Poes Law. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:11:04 PM 997 Views
So quipping that rational people wouldn´t use a certain search engine is really about terrorism?!? Helene - 15/05/2011 08:14:59 PM 1009 Views
Terrorism, and knowledge of it, was the subject of the thread. Joel - 15/05/2011 08:38:35 PM 1100 Views
I don't think the article says much of anything at all. Dan - 07/05/2011 03:28:35 AM 907 Views
Maybe; I don't always appreciate deadpan jokes online.... Joel - 07/05/2011 03:43:51 AM 1167 Views
I think the linguistic conventions governing search engines and typical conversation differ is all. Dan - 07/05/2011 04:00:38 AM 1025 Views
Hopefully that's all it is. Joel - 07/05/2011 04:17:21 AM 990 Views
actually, search engines are getting better towards "questions" now LadyLorraine - 11/05/2011 11:06:42 PM 992 Views
Fair enough then, if surprising; objection withdrawn. Joel - 12/05/2011 01:17:28 AM 1115 Views
I think you're reading too much into this Isaac - 10/05/2011 12:58:20 AM 1109 Views
Possibly; I really hope so. Joel - 10/05/2011 04:01:50 AM 1023 Views
Re: Possibly; I really hope so. Isaac - 10/05/2011 05:18:43 AM 1125 Views
Again, fair enough. Joel - 12/05/2011 01:52:07 AM 1068 Views
Re: Again, fair enough. Isaac - 12/05/2011 02:04:53 AM 1090 Views
Acknowledged. Joel - 12/05/2011 02:41:38 AM 1059 Views
HA! Vivien - 12/05/2011 10:50:50 PM 1233 Views
Re: I'm more disgusted by this thread than by its original topic of conversation. *NM* Gaps - 15/05/2011 09:41:43 PM 567 Views
Just as well; I conceded on the original topic ages ago. Joel - 15/05/2011 11:10:20 PM 1032 Views
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