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4th amendment moondog Send a noteboard - 17/05/2011 12:55:00 AM
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


it's one thing if the police had probable cause on these guys and got a warrant to put the GPS tracker on their car. if you are suspected of being involved in a crime, the police should have no difficulty getting a judge to sign off on extra surveillance if it will help crack a case. putting these things on people's cars without a warrant, and in at least two cases while it was sitting in someone's driveway, is (or should be) a complete violation of the fourth amendment guarantee to privacy.


So by your argument I should be able to just go take a dump on my front lawn while school kids are waiting for the buss, it is my property after all. I will agree that they shouldn't be able to track your car until leaves your driveway if that makes you feel better but once they get back on public roads it is fair game.


come on, that is not even close to the same thing and you know it. just like the first amendment doesn't protect your right to incite a riot, the fourth doesn't give you the right to privacy when you're deliberately making an ass of yourself to anyone within viewing distance. considering that insurance companies consider your vehicle an extension of your home, i don't see why it's such a stretch to consider your property line an extension of your privacy rights. or are you saying i should send the cops over to put a tracker on your car since you don't mind giving up your personal freedom so easily?
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secret GPS tracking upheld as legal practice - 16/05/2011 02:37:14 PM 975 Views
How do they expect honest criminals to make a living with rules like this? - 16/05/2011 06:24:45 PM 564 Views
sure this example is about convicted robbers - 16/05/2011 06:42:51 PM 529 Views
I will have a problem when I see innocent people being targeted for no reason - 16/05/2011 09:17:22 PM 540 Views
so get a warrant if these guys are such threats to society - 17/05/2011 12:57:51 AM 525 Views
once again privacy takes place in private not in public. That is sorta where the word comes from - 17/05/2011 02:23:05 PM 535 Views
checks and balances - 17/05/2011 09:22:13 PM 573 Views
no the police can follow you around without probable cause - 17/05/2011 10:09:57 PM 528 Views
the constitution guarantees the right of privacy to all, not just law abiding citizens - 16/05/2011 09:14:24 PM 530 Views
where does it say that? It should be real easy to point to since it is in the constiution - 16/05/2011 09:21:19 PM 582 Views
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try reading it again it doesn't have the word privacy in it - 17/05/2011 02:42:44 PM 541 Views
how is surveillance not a type of search? *NM* - 17/05/2011 09:25:27 PM 264 Views
Because it's surveillance when they're in public. - 17/05/2011 09:31:02 PM 572 Views
The kiddies still call it weed. *NM* - 18/05/2011 12:08:26 AM 229 Views
your example does not quite work for this situation - 18/05/2011 01:49:02 AM 545 Views
how is different if it is done by GPS or tailing them in a car? *NM* - 17/05/2011 10:00:53 PM 219 Views
it's not different -- if they get a warrant first - 18/05/2011 01:50:13 AM 539 Views
OK I will use smaller words - 18/05/2011 02:23:05 PM 566 Views
spelling it out for you - 18/05/2011 04:18:45 PM 627 Views
I'm happy with it. *NM* - 17/05/2011 03:04:42 AM 356 Views
Molestation - 18/05/2011 04:22:19 AM 751 Views

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