Obama caved spectacularly to avoid a default.
Great Lord of Chaos Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 04:37:21 PM
S&P has been warning DC for months that unless significant cuts to our projected debt were accepted, the downgrade would happen. Obama resisted such cuts every step of the way and now has to suffer the consequences.
The buck stops with him.....that's the job he signed up for.
Congress must pass any legislation, and with a Republican House and Democratic Senate, only a bi-partisan bill would have any chance of passing, and we saw how well that worked this time.
Which includes tax hikes AS WELL AS spending cuts, which in turn is why they cited the GOPs refusal to even consider tax hikes as one reason for the downgrade:
"The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed.
Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the [debt ceiling deal]. - Excerpt from Standard and Poors statement reducing America bond rating.
Don't make the mistake Obama did of discussing this on the terms of those who caused the downgrade. Obama DID screw up: He gave the Republicans all their spoiled childish demands at the expense of the national economy, with finanical agencies and the public demanding tax hikes AND spending cuts to cut our debt.
However, unilaterally blaming Obama for this debt crisis is naive. He gave in to the Republican demands, because at that point, it was do or die. If he did not give in, no bill would have been passed, and then America would have defaulted.
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US Credit Rate Downgraded - Obama should resign.....
06/08/2011 04:12:48 AM
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you, it was the tea party republicans that caused this
06/08/2011 05:57:16 AM
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Que tonterías.
06/08/2011 04:23:49 AM
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Really?
06/08/2011 05:05:48 AM
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Leaders have to lead.....
06/08/2011 05:18:21 AM
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Cuts aren't up to him, though.
06/08/2011 05:37:50 AM
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Yeah, sure, the President has no say or control.....good grief.....
*NM*
06/08/2011 06:13:49 AM
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S&P didn't demand cuts, they demanded fiscal responsibility.
06/08/2011 03:18:10 PM
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Obama caved spectacularly to avoid a default.
06/08/2011 04:37:21 PM
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and haters gotta hate..... *NM*
06/08/2011 05:49:25 AM
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I admit it, I hate what Obama is doing to our country..... *NM*
06/08/2011 06:12:39 AM
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As ever your disinterest in facts seems to be central to your posting.
06/08/2011 11:34:20 AM
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Which would be less annoying if so much of Congress didn't suffer from the same delusions.
06/08/2011 03:48:04 PM
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Does Timmy G play sax like his brother Kenny? *NM*
06/08/2011 01:11:17 PM
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Fun fact - I dated in HS Kenny G's niece.....
06/08/2011 03:13:52 PM
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S&P specifically cited GOP refusal to raise taxes among their reasons.
06/08/2011 03:10:22 PM
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Of course one could just read the actual S&P report
06/08/2011 04:01:07 PM
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Sure.
06/08/2011 04:53:47 PM
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Right, ABC new's summary of the report is not the report
06/08/2011 07:02:46 PM
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Link works, but I'm not sure why you think it refutes snoops assessment or mine.
06/08/2011 08:35:10 PM
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It doesn't refute it, it just isn't this simple distillation you're offering
06/08/2011 09:23:33 PM
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It's more than half a sentence; I quoted several paragraphs.
06/08/2011 09:56:31 PM
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Well yes, after I gave you the report, I think I'm pretty obviously refering to before that
06/08/2011 11:02:17 PM
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Before that I was referring to the paragraphs quoted in the ABC report.
07/08/2011 01:21:18 AM
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not really
06/08/2011 10:15:32 PM
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"the mix of spending and revenue measures"
06/08/2011 10:23:06 PM
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So you read the statement that they take no posistion as they take the dem position?
07/08/2011 04:51:58 AM
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I read a "mix" to be a mix.
09/08/2011 12:14:35 AM
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So in other words you just ignore the actaull words and read it say what you want it to say *NM*
09/08/2011 02:07:57 PM
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A mix of something and nothing is impossible; one thing is one thing, not a mix.
09/08/2011 04:56:00 PM
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US politicians are too busy fighting over who gets to play the fiddle. *NM*
06/08/2011 05:53:32 PM
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would him resigning really help?
07/08/2011 10:24:00 AM
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not as long as he has the high functioning moron Joe Biden as VP.
08/08/2011 12:34:32 AM
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In reality, its Congress (BOTH parties) AND the President who are to blame.
08/08/2011 01:59:13 AM
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40% is not a small tax increase and a small spending cut
09/08/2011 04:20:28 AM
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Why are people making a deal about the debt ceiling increase?
09/08/2011 03:42:13 PM
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Because, when you get down to it, the debt ceilings very existence was always a political threat.
09/08/2011 05:02:12 PM
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