I feel obliged to point out that no race capable of crossing the void is likely to lack either sophisticated replicators of the von Neumann variety or Fusion, if you've got fusion or something better, CO2 in your atmosphere is silly concern, fusion doesn't produce like fossil fuels and you could literally profitable suck it right back out of the air. So it would be a really f'd up thing to send a 'warfleet' when you could send a diagram of fusion reactor faster and basically for free.
There's also the prick factor, none of us would think genocide the proper route to deal with a culture that, say, chronically over-fished, so anyone who would go flying across light years to do so is probably a pack of SOBs simply looking for a thinly veiled excuse and 'eats meat' or 'murders and skins thinking feeling creatures to wear their hides around' are a heck of a lot more likely than a problem that ca not possibly matter, it's not like if we did colonize other worlds they'd even have fossils fuels for us to burn.
There's also the prick factor, none of us would think genocide the proper route to deal with a culture that, say, chronically over-fished, so anyone who would go flying across light years to do so is probably a pack of SOBs simply looking for a thinly veiled excuse and 'eats meat' or 'murders and skins thinking feeling creatures to wear their hides around' are a heck of a lot more likely than a problem that ca not possibly matter, it's not like if we did colonize other worlds they'd even have fossils fuels for us to burn.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
If ever there was a reason to cut greenhouse gas emissions
- 19/08/2011 10:14:00 AM
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I've seen Start Trek, I know the real threat is you killing whales.
- 19/08/2011 10:34:08 AM
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I know
- 19/08/2011 10:36:22 AM
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- 19/08/2011 10:36:22 AM
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You make a fair point
- 19/08/2011 11:22:53 AM
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There's so much wrong with that
- 19/08/2011 01:08:57 PM
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"They don't recycle; kill them all. "
- 19/08/2011 07:11:15 PM
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- 19/08/2011 07:11:15 PM
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Very Space Hippy
- 19/08/2011 10:39:10 PM
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- 19/08/2011 10:39:10 PM
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It's still debatable whether we've abandoned the evolutionary ladder.
- 19/08/2011 11:16:58 PM
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You'll welcome to debate that with a biologist, it's not my specialty or interest
- 20/08/2011 04:46:43 AM
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I've seen a lot of mainstream biologists suggest human evolution may be mostly mental now.
- 21/08/2011 11:32:48 AM
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Neither of us are biologists though and it's not really relveant anyway
- 21/08/2011 01:21:06 PM
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I'm not ignoring it, just wondering why over half the planet ignores it and lives in misery.
- 21/08/2011 01:55:53 PM
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If you have occassion to spend time in those places you'll know why
- 21/08/2011 02:38:44 PM
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How does literal mud huts as the norm respresent living standards rising "a lot".
- 22/08/2011 12:29:35 AM
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You seem to have cherry-picked what you wanted to hear out of my comments
- 22/08/2011 01:07:10 AM
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"It's a stability thing, not a Western greed thing" seemed to encapsulate your comments.
- 22/08/2011 03:10:17 PM
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Only if you really cherry pick them
- 23/08/2011 02:48:08 AM
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This seems to have descended into an insoluble partisan debate.
- 23/08/2011 07:43:07 PM
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*rudely butts in*
- 23/08/2011 04:38:33 AM
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American companies don't go to China SOLELY to screw the working class, no;that's largely incidental
- 25/08/2011 08:03:05 PM
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we should abdon the myth of the evolutionary ladder
- 20/08/2011 11:49:35 PM
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Probably; as discussed in Brams thread it should never be seen as predictive, let alone prophetic.
- 21/08/2011 11:55:09 AM
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Well, for this context I think the use is okay
- 21/08/2011 11:59:19 AM
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That's an interesting point about the NEED for fossil fuels as a stepping stone to advanced culture.
- 21/08/2011 12:33:59 PM
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Not a need, just an edge
- 21/08/2011 02:06:23 PM
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There's industrialization and then there's industrialization.
- 22/08/2011 12:53:35 AM
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If you were more familiar with engineering you'd not say something like that
- 22/08/2011 01:53:33 AM
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I dispute that industrialization is primarily about non-agricultural production.
- 22/08/2011 03:10:19 PM
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Well you can argue that with a dictionary I suppose
- 23/08/2011 03:50:52 AM
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I'm not above that, but the dictionary definitions I've found are disappointingly self-referential.
- 24/08/2011 02:25:21 AM
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That tends to be the case, it is a kinda vague term outside of specific context
- 24/08/2011 09:12:19 AM
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Tends to moot that part of the debate though.
- 26/08/2011 12:31:21 AM
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and we wonder why so many people ignore "scientist"
- 19/08/2011 01:17:38 PM
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Think it's better to ignore "reporters on a slow news day," to be honest *NM*
- 19/08/2011 02:38:23 PM
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Hypothetical aliens are perfectly wise
- 19/08/2011 06:24:13 PM
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You may be confusing aliens with God.
- 19/08/2011 07:08:01 PM
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