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yes I was just jumping into the middle of the discussion. random thoughts Send a noteboard - 22/08/2011 03:03:49 PM
I wasn't trying to attack Joel it is just sort of a soapbox issue for me. I think the language we use to describe evolution causes a lot of misunderstanding. Evolution isn't a process working toward a result it is nothing more than the result of some creatures being better at passing on the their genes.
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If ever there was a reason to cut greenhouse gas emissions Camilla - 19/08/2011 10:14:00 AM 983 Views
I've seen Start Trek, I know the real threat is you killing whales. snoopcester - 19/08/2011 10:34:08 AM 637 Views
I know Camilla - 19/08/2011 10:36:22 AM 577 Views
You make a fair point snoopcester - 19/08/2011 11:22:53 AM 564 Views
Re: You make a fair point Camilla - 19/08/2011 02:06:05 PM 533 Views
Re: You make a fair point snoopcester - 19/08/2011 02:10:43 PM 521 Views
It's the other other white meat. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:13:19 PM 587 Views
There's so much wrong with that Isaac - 19/08/2011 01:08:57 PM 614 Views
"They don't recycle; kill them all. " Joel - 19/08/2011 07:11:15 PM 596 Views
Very Space Hippy Isaac - 19/08/2011 10:39:10 PM 629 Views
It's still debatable whether we've abandoned the evolutionary ladder. Joel - 19/08/2011 11:16:58 PM 709 Views
You'll welcome to debate that with a biologist, it's not my specialty or interest Isaac - 20/08/2011 04:46:43 AM 664 Views
I've seen a lot of mainstream biologists suggest human evolution may be mostly mental now. Joel - 21/08/2011 11:32:48 AM 661 Views
Neither of us are biologists though and it's not really relveant anyway Isaac - 21/08/2011 01:21:06 PM 662 Views
I'm not ignoring it, just wondering why over half the planet ignores it and lives in misery. Joel - 21/08/2011 01:55:53 PM 660 Views
If you have occassion to spend time in those places you'll know why Isaac - 21/08/2011 02:38:44 PM 557 Views
How does literal mud huts as the norm respresent living standards rising "a lot". Joel - 22/08/2011 12:29:35 AM 727 Views
You seem to have cherry-picked what you wanted to hear out of my comments Isaac - 22/08/2011 01:07:10 AM 457 Views
"It's a stability thing, not a Western greed thing" seemed to encapsulate your comments. Joel - 22/08/2011 03:10:17 PM 590 Views
Only if you really cherry pick them Isaac - 23/08/2011 02:48:08 AM 616 Views
This seems to have descended into an insoluble partisan debate. Joel - 23/08/2011 07:43:07 PM 670 Views
You're the one who dragged it to that Isaac - 23/08/2011 08:10:03 PM 576 Views
Did I? Joel - 25/08/2011 10:18:29 PM 587 Views
*rudely butts in* Vodalus - 23/08/2011 04:38:33 AM 644 Views
American companies don't go to China SOLELY to screw the working class, no;that's largely incidental Joel - 25/08/2011 08:03:05 PM 721 Views
we should abdon the myth of the evolutionary ladder random thoughts - 20/08/2011 11:49:35 PM 493 Views
Probably; as discussed in Brams thread it should never be seen as predictive, let alone prophetic. Joel - 21/08/2011 11:55:09 AM 604 Views
Well, for this context I think the use is okay Isaac - 21/08/2011 11:59:19 AM 577 Views
That's an interesting point about the NEED for fossil fuels as a stepping stone to advanced culture. Joel - 21/08/2011 12:33:59 PM 677 Views
Not a need, just an edge Isaac - 21/08/2011 02:06:23 PM 480 Views
There's industrialization and then there's industrialization. Joel - 22/08/2011 12:53:35 AM 832 Views
If you were more familiar with engineering you'd not say something like that Isaac - 22/08/2011 01:53:33 AM 858 Views
I dispute that industrialization is primarily about non-agricultural production. Joel - 22/08/2011 03:10:19 PM 775 Views
Well you can argue that with a dictionary I suppose Isaac - 23/08/2011 03:50:52 AM 610 Views
I'm not above that, but the dictionary definitions I've found are disappointingly self-referential. Joel - 24/08/2011 02:25:21 AM 547 Views
That tends to be the case, it is a kinda vague term outside of specific context Isaac - 24/08/2011 09:12:19 AM 710 Views
Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Joel - 26/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 829 Views
Re: Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Isaac - 26/08/2011 05:52:59 PM 868 Views
Re: Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Joel - 28/08/2011 09:44:52 AM 689 Views
yes I was just jumping into the middle of the discussion. random thoughts - 22/08/2011 03:03:49 PM 531 Views
and we wonder why so many people ignore "scientist" random thoughts - 19/08/2011 01:17:38 PM 622 Views
Think it's better to ignore "reporters on a slow news day," to be honest *NM* beetnemesis - 19/08/2011 02:38:23 PM 228 Views
Or even acquire a sense of humour. *NM* Camilla - 19/08/2011 08:36:07 PM 257 Views
That was the City of Pearl series by Karen Traviss Aeryn - 19/08/2011 02:04:51 PM 603 Views
Re: That was the City of Pearl series by Karen Traviss Camilla - 19/08/2011 02:06:27 PM 557 Views
Hypothetical aliens are perfectly wise aerocontrols - 19/08/2011 06:24:13 PM 512 Views
You may be confusing aliens with God. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:08:01 PM 568 Views
Not confused aerocontrols - 19/08/2011 11:41:56 PM 583 Views
It's a an amusing disconnect to watch. Joel - 20/08/2011 12:25:00 AM 584 Views
Naturally. Camilla - 19/08/2011 08:36:28 PM 670 Views
So, basically, we're the poor white trash of the universe. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:06:23 PM 626 Views
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