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There are several possibilities. Nate Send a noteboard - 24/08/2011 03:30:32 AM
If you are so damn poor? A little self control and hard work to better your situation before having kids would be a wise decision. Right?


I even mentioned some in the post you replied to just now. Perhaps the spouse was the wage earner and passed away. Perhaps a condom broke. Perhaps they meant to have one and had triplets instead. Maybe their parents and schools never taught them about birth control and they just didn't know enough when they were starting out. Maybe she was raped at some point and had a child from it. Maybe she knew when she got pregnant that she couldn't afford it but couldn't bear to give her own children up for adoption and is trying her best to make things work even though the odds are stacked against her. Are any of those a good reason to turn your back and say the family deserves it? Do the kids deserve it too? And even one child can be very expensive if the mother/father can only make minimum wage.

And in some cases, yes, there's probably some short-sightedness going on. You can even call it outright stupidity in some cases. But broad brushes, man. Broad brushes for such varied situations.
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Make the poor pay their fair share - 23/08/2011 11:22:37 PM 1566 Views
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It is disgraceful that over 40% of households pay no federal income tax..... - 23/08/2011 11:47:54 PM 887 Views
Did you even watch both videos? *NM* - 24/08/2011 12:08:43 AM 367 Views
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Sometimes reality sucks so bad that you need a joker to tell you the truth. - 24/08/2011 12:26:50 AM 940 Views
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I'm not sure if you're missing the point or not. - 24/08/2011 02:20:49 AM 1006 Views
I believe... - 24/08/2011 03:59:00 AM 947 Views
no I heard what he say Ihe is just wrong *NM* - 24/08/2011 11:46:54 AM 403 Views
no the point is Stewart is using a strawman argument then - 24/08/2011 12:22:55 PM 934 Views
I repeat did you watch both videos? - 24/08/2011 03:09:48 AM 779 Views
did you actually think about what you were watching? - 24/08/2011 01:23:47 PM 895 Views
Here is what he said, since you are at work - 24/08/2011 11:36:52 PM 797 Views
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The numbers barely change if you use income instead of wealth - 25/08/2011 03:40:12 AM 816 Views
sorry again your fudging that is adjusted gross income what would the unadjusted gross be? - 25/08/2011 02:30:06 PM 786 Views
I considered a progressive tax a feature not a bug - 25/08/2011 08:36:48 PM 697 Views
I thought you were a flat taxer - 25/08/2011 09:36:21 PM 826 Views
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so just proving your numbers are wrong isn't enough? - 26/08/2011 05:03:52 PM 790 Views
how are my numbers not valid? *NM* - 27/08/2011 03:29:34 AM 380 Views
OK lets try something different - 28/08/2011 03:24:27 PM 712 Views
When you say serious republican? - 29/08/2011 12:47:40 AM 810 Views
I simple "no I can't defend it" would have worked *NM* - 29/08/2011 02:00:11 PM 449 Views
Laughs, you are funny - 30/08/2011 12:25:52 AM 744 Views
Never had much sympathy for the poor - 24/08/2011 02:18:57 AM 888 Views
While there is some truth to your argument ... - 24/08/2011 02:29:28 AM 1013 Views
Very true - 24/08/2011 02:39:41 AM 711 Views
Not exclusively. - 24/08/2011 02:48:58 AM 805 Views
All those people you mentioned fall under "temporary" - 24/08/2011 03:06:04 AM 766 Views
Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids - 24/08/2011 03:18:27 AM 815 Views
That's what I've never understood - 24/08/2011 03:24:20 AM 818 Views
That's what I assume as well.....but honestly..... - 24/08/2011 03:32:59 AM 651 Views
What if everyone really did try their hardest? - 24/08/2011 03:38:39 AM 716 Views
Illegals would cover those jobs and we will continue to look the other way - - 24/08/2011 03:46:55 AM 721 Views
So you, as a Republican, approve of illegal immigration? *NM* - 24/08/2011 03:49:26 AM 352 Views
In the scenario Nate illustrated, I would be more tolerant of illegals. - 24/08/2011 03:53:23 AM 669 Views
Not possible - 24/08/2011 03:48:05 AM 804 Views
You have that in Eastern European countries - 24/08/2011 11:05:07 PM 800 Views
There are several possibilities. - 24/08/2011 03:30:32 AM 786 Views
Very true and very wise take ... - 24/08/2011 04:33:53 AM 719 Views
Re: Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids - 24/08/2011 04:15:54 AM 725 Views
The first few weeks suck ... - 24/08/2011 04:30:13 AM 786 Views
Celibacy is a choice, but chosen for the wrong reasons and it never works - 24/08/2011 06:31:47 AM 804 Views
I found most of what you wrote tough to decipher ... - 24/08/2011 07:14:42 AM 852 Views
I think people misuse the word "celibacy" - 26/08/2011 04:27:27 PM 889 Views
Maybe you should stop voting for the people who oppose birth control and sex ed, then. *NM* - 25/08/2011 06:10:15 AM 312 Views
Is it so much opposition to... - 25/08/2011 09:18:12 PM 798 Views
It's opposition to birth control and sex ed. - 26/08/2011 01:06:38 AM 709 Views
now that is true liberal thinking - 26/08/2011 05:24:02 PM 803 Views
No joke. This thought process kind of puts me on edge. *NM* - 26/08/2011 05:47:15 PM 400 Views
Neither you nor Jeordam has justified that position. - 28/08/2011 12:05:51 AM 729 Views
wow you go deeper and deeper into the the land of far left crazy - 28/08/2011 03:31:45 PM 790 Views
I don't view the "liberty" to teach lies to children as something that merits state investment. - 29/08/2011 04:17:27 AM 994 Views
I can comment on this one.... - 29/08/2011 11:51:40 PM 842 Views
Re: I can comment on this one.... - 30/08/2011 03:54:07 AM 724 Views
who opposes birth control? *NM* - 25/08/2011 09:37:04 PM 415 Views
The Republican party and social conservatives in general. - 26/08/2011 12:52:32 AM 805 Views
so your answer is left wing talking points and damn reality? - 26/08/2011 05:14:58 PM 783 Views
Reality leans left. - 27/08/2011 11:56:00 PM 790 Views
you talking about reality is funny but it doesn't support your argument in the slighetest - 28/08/2011 03:37:42 PM 666 Views
They blatantly lied about the effectiveness of birth control. - 29/08/2011 04:14:17 AM 671 Views
Can you show me where Bush said that? - 29/08/2011 02:03:53 PM 753 Views
No, I have most of the groups that taught abstinence-only. - 29/08/2011 05:17:39 PM 779 Views
the little bit of slanted reality form a Waxman staffer? - 29/08/2011 05:43:42 PM 794 Views
Talk about believing what you want to believe. - 30/08/2011 03:38:49 AM 692 Views
Funny..... - 26/08/2011 05:54:38 PM 784 Views
Re: Funny..... - 28/08/2011 12:15:25 AM 699 Views
I'll just comment on this one thought... - 29/08/2011 11:58:08 PM 825 Views
The state does if the parent places their children in public education. - 30/08/2011 03:58:29 AM 813 Views
The number of ridiculous stereotypes in your first paragraph are off the hook. Are you joking? - 24/08/2011 02:53:13 AM 626 Views
Ridiculous stereotypes? - 24/08/2011 03:03:52 AM 820 Views
You are much more right than wrong..... - 24/08/2011 03:23:22 AM 730 Views
I agree for the most part - 24/08/2011 03:27:21 AM 645 Views
Woah woah woah. You had me until the end - 25/08/2011 09:21:50 AM 771 Views
I know the chances of that are very slim - 25/08/2011 01:07:41 PM 683 Views
This video is unavailable from your location *NM* - 24/08/2011 03:42:26 AM 370 Views
Does this work? - 24/08/2011 04:21:47 AM 642 Views
Still only visible from the States... - 24/08/2011 04:27:32 AM 645 Views
Not so, the first link works for me here. - 26/08/2011 01:31:18 AM 742 Views
Crap presentation of an important issue. - 26/08/2011 05:32:46 AM 901 Views
no one thinks a family of four can live on that - 26/08/2011 05:28:49 PM 673 Views

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