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You kind of inadvertently prove the point... Legolas Send a noteboard - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM
Surely that qualifies you as a city no matter how isolated you are. It takes a lot of infrastucture, organization, cooperation, homes, businesses, goods and services to handle 1.7 million people.

If you got that 1.7 million people stat from Wikipedia, do look at numbers below it: population density 308 per square km, total surface: over 5000 square kilometer. Those are country numbers, not city numbers (Belgium as a whole has a higher population density than that, the Netherlands has nearly half again that). In other words: Perth has 1.7 million people because the definition of "Perth" is essentially "every populated place in Western Australia that isn't hundreds of kilometers away from the city centre".

For comparison's sake, if you take that kind of surface around Helsinki, you'd get close to the surface of the entire region of Uusimaa (I love Wikipedia), which has close to 1.5 million people in it.

But those are just quibbles that don't detract from you being right on the main point, clearly I did underestimate Perth's size.
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The world's top ten and worst ten most livable cities Nate - 30/08/2011 07:06:50 PM 1389 Views
How do you call towns "cities"? Tom - 30/08/2011 08:12:27 PM 661 Views
I thought you were going to mention Perth. The rest are clearly cities, if you ask me. Legolas - 30/08/2011 08:23:33 PM 648 Views
Perth has 1.7 million people. Nate - 30/08/2011 08:30:26 PM 807 Views
You kind of inadvertently prove the point... Legolas - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM 872 Views
So I see! Nate - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM 901 Views
A million people isn't a city? Nate - 30/08/2011 08:28:20 PM 810 Views
Not necessarily. Tom - 30/08/2011 10:49:08 PM 774 Views
You could be right re: population density. Nate - 30/08/2011 11:06:36 PM 717 Views
Re: Not necessarily. Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 788 Views
He's spoilt by living in New York Stephen - 31/08/2011 01:26:02 AM 862 Views
That probably is part of it. Tom - 31/08/2011 02:14:41 AM 663 Views
to meet their definition of best it also seems to help if you have mostly white random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:52:11 PM 667 Views
Have you been to Toronto or Vancouver ? wheelwright - 31/08/2011 04:02:01 PM 684 Views
no but I have the internet and they meet the ethnic description I gave random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:25:40 PM 787 Views
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're fairly off with that one. Nate - 31/08/2011 04:52:25 PM 734 Views
OK you did see where I included Asians didn't you and I would call less than 2% significant random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:31:45 PM 729 Views
I believe your words ... Nate - 31/08/2011 05:49:26 PM 710 Views
yeah sprinkling was probably an understatement random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:36:16 PM 925 Views
As a comparison ... Nate - 30/08/2011 08:37:28 PM 836 Views
that can be a little misleading random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:18:22 PM 768 Views
Point taken. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM 857 Views
Not enough Europe, apparently ironclad - 30/08/2011 08:13:48 PM 732 Views
Re: Europe Nate - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM 757 Views
Interesting ironclad - 30/08/2011 09:59:27 PM 893 Views
but everything tries to kill you in Oz Yunalesca - 30/08/2011 08:41:51 PM 692 Views
That's what keeps you fit and healthy. *NM* Nate - 30/08/2011 09:17:32 PM 370 Views
weather is a factor and three Canadian cities made the top ten? random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:22:32 PM 804 Views
Vancouver at least has a nice climate. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM 931 Views
yeah there are not vey many US cities I would want to raise kids in random thoughts - 30/08/2011 11:16:52 PM 638 Views
For the record, I found Vancouver quite lovely. Joel - 31/08/2011 05:09:37 PM 876 Views
Quality health care in the US, really? Macharius - 31/08/2011 12:27:41 AM 753 Views
seriously... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:24:47 AM 706 Views
all you are arguing is quality=free random thoughts - 31/08/2011 12:11:30 PM 712 Views
Also, Aeryn - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM 785 Views
no it works out that nicely for most people random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:36:13 PM 737 Views
How can he afford a week in Vail and not afford insurance? nossy - 31/08/2011 04:22:47 PM 742 Views
a lot of the uninsured are that way from choice random thoughts - 31/08/2011 06:41:42 PM 665 Views
Getting care, getting timely care, getting quality care and paying for it are all different things. Joel - 31/08/2011 03:39:30 PM 901 Views
tha tis becuase the hospital is run by republicans and they were out to get you *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:37:47 PM 511 Views
Nothing in Travis County is run by Republicans. Joel - 31/08/2011 07:46:42 PM 752 Views
Livability obviously doesn't include "Concentration of Venomous Creatures". *NM* TaskmasterJack - 30/08/2011 11:43:43 PM 382 Views
or perhaps Australian cities rank so high because they're so much better than the alternative Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:58:47 PM 819 Views
Actually, the reason our cities are so liveable is because they're built to keep said creatures out Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:59:01 AM 654 Views
How? ironclad - 31/08/2011 08:20:01 AM 639 Views
I can't risk putting the answer on a public forum, the venomous creatures may find out Colonel Logain - 01/09/2011 07:26:52 AM 580 Views
Why no Boston? *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:16:28 AM 366 Views
Annoyingness of local sports fans was also taken into consideration. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 468 Views
Obviously the study group consists of Yankees fans. Poor, unfortunate souls. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:46:17 AM 343 Views
A low population density seems to be a key determinant in these rankings Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:51:45 AM 625 Views
There is an obvious mistake Druid - 31/08/2011 03:07:31 AM 965 Views
I was almost killed by a wombat LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:26:28 AM 618 Views
you should print that on a tee shirt and sell it random thoughts - 31/08/2011 09:11:18 PM 637 Views
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