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You kind of inadvertently prove the point... Legolas Send a noteboard - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM
Surely that qualifies you as a city no matter how isolated you are. It takes a lot of infrastucture, organization, cooperation, homes, businesses, goods and services to handle 1.7 million people.

If you got that 1.7 million people stat from Wikipedia, do look at numbers below it: population density 308 per square km, total surface: over 5000 square kilometer. Those are country numbers, not city numbers (Belgium as a whole has a higher population density than that, the Netherlands has nearly half again that). In other words: Perth has 1.7 million people because the definition of "Perth" is essentially "every populated place in Western Australia that isn't hundreds of kilometers away from the city centre".

For comparison's sake, if you take that kind of surface around Helsinki, you'd get close to the surface of the entire region of Uusimaa (I love Wikipedia), which has close to 1.5 million people in it.

But those are just quibbles that don't detract from you being right on the main point, clearly I did underestimate Perth's size.
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The world's top ten and worst ten most livable cities Nate - 30/08/2011 07:06:50 PM 1437 Views
How do you call towns "cities"? Tom - 30/08/2011 08:12:27 PM 702 Views
I thought you were going to mention Perth. The rest are clearly cities, if you ask me. Legolas - 30/08/2011 08:23:33 PM 687 Views
Perth has 1.7 million people. Nate - 30/08/2011 08:30:26 PM 846 Views
You kind of inadvertently prove the point... Legolas - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM 915 Views
So I see! Nate - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM 942 Views
A million people isn't a city? Nate - 30/08/2011 08:28:20 PM 850 Views
Not necessarily. Tom - 30/08/2011 10:49:08 PM 813 Views
You could be right re: population density. Nate - 30/08/2011 11:06:36 PM 762 Views
Re: Not necessarily. Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 832 Views
He's spoilt by living in New York Stephen - 31/08/2011 01:26:02 AM 900 Views
That probably is part of it. Tom - 31/08/2011 02:14:41 AM 705 Views
to meet their definition of best it also seems to help if you have mostly white random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:52:11 PM 709 Views
Have you been to Toronto or Vancouver ? wheelwright - 31/08/2011 04:02:01 PM 725 Views
no but I have the internet and they meet the ethnic description I gave random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:25:40 PM 825 Views
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're fairly off with that one. Nate - 31/08/2011 04:52:25 PM 778 Views
OK you did see where I included Asians didn't you and I would call less than 2% significant random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:31:45 PM 769 Views
I believe your words ... Nate - 31/08/2011 05:49:26 PM 751 Views
yeah sprinkling was probably an understatement random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:36:16 PM 968 Views
As a comparison ... Nate - 30/08/2011 08:37:28 PM 878 Views
that can be a little misleading random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:18:22 PM 811 Views
Point taken. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM 893 Views
Not enough Europe, apparently ironclad - 30/08/2011 08:13:48 PM 777 Views
Re: Europe Nate - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM 794 Views
Interesting ironclad - 30/08/2011 09:59:27 PM 931 Views
but everything tries to kill you in Oz Yunalesca - 30/08/2011 08:41:51 PM 730 Views
That's what keeps you fit and healthy. *NM* Nate - 30/08/2011 09:17:32 PM 389 Views
weather is a factor and three Canadian cities made the top ten? random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:22:32 PM 844 Views
Vancouver at least has a nice climate. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM 970 Views
yeah there are not vey many US cities I would want to raise kids in random thoughts - 30/08/2011 11:16:52 PM 679 Views
For the record, I found Vancouver quite lovely. Joel - 31/08/2011 05:09:37 PM 921 Views
Quality health care in the US, really? Macharius - 31/08/2011 12:27:41 AM 805 Views
seriously... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:24:47 AM 745 Views
all you are arguing is quality=free random thoughts - 31/08/2011 12:11:30 PM 750 Views
Also, Aeryn - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM 821 Views
no it works out that nicely for most people random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:36:13 PM 781 Views
How can he afford a week in Vail and not afford insurance? nossy - 31/08/2011 04:22:47 PM 785 Views
a lot of the uninsured are that way from choice random thoughts - 31/08/2011 06:41:42 PM 704 Views
Getting care, getting timely care, getting quality care and paying for it are all different things. Joel - 31/08/2011 03:39:30 PM 947 Views
tha tis becuase the hospital is run by republicans and they were out to get you *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:37:47 PM 532 Views
Nothing in Travis County is run by Republicans. Joel - 31/08/2011 07:46:42 PM 794 Views
Livability obviously doesn't include "Concentration of Venomous Creatures". *NM* TaskmasterJack - 30/08/2011 11:43:43 PM 401 Views
or perhaps Australian cities rank so high because they're so much better than the alternative Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:58:47 PM 866 Views
Actually, the reason our cities are so liveable is because they're built to keep said creatures out Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:59:01 AM 692 Views
How? ironclad - 31/08/2011 08:20:01 AM 686 Views
I can't risk putting the answer on a public forum, the venomous creatures may find out Colonel Logain - 01/09/2011 07:26:52 AM 626 Views
Why no Boston? *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:16:28 AM 386 Views
Annoyingness of local sports fans was also taken into consideration. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 487 Views
Obviously the study group consists of Yankees fans. Poor, unfortunate souls. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:46:17 AM 365 Views
A low population density seems to be a key determinant in these rankings Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:51:45 AM 667 Views
There is an obvious mistake Druid - 31/08/2011 03:07:31 AM 1005 Views
I was almost killed by a wombat LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:26:28 AM 654 Views
you should print that on a tee shirt and sell it random thoughts - 31/08/2011 09:11:18 PM 679 Views
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