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Point taken. Nate Send a noteboard - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM
City limits can be misleading it makes more sense to measure by total metropolitan area. Dallas may have only 1.2 million people living in the city limits but it is more like one giant city called DFW that has 6.3 million people in it. If you measure it by metropolitan area Toronto would just edge out Boston for tenth place and Montreal would come at 15. If you moved the Toronto area to Texas it would only come in third in the State.

I still think that rates them the title of city but it really doesn't compare to America's big three.


America certainly does have more large, spread-out metropolitan areas than Canada, where we tend to huddle together for warmth in the winter. That makes me wonder how the Economist classified their city limits. Did they differentiate between Dallas and Fort Worth, for example? Did they include the Greater Toronto Area in their ranking of Toronto? I'd be interested to see.

But that's a tangent from the definition of what a city is. I'm just curious about what makes something a city in Tom's eyes, and wondering why a centre of one or two million people should be called a town.
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The world's top ten and worst ten most livable cities - 30/08/2011 07:06:50 PM 1597 Views
How do you call towns "cities"? - 30/08/2011 08:12:27 PM 857 Views
I thought you were going to mention Perth. The rest are clearly cities, if you ask me. - 30/08/2011 08:23:33 PM 827 Views
Perth has 1.7 million people. - 30/08/2011 08:30:26 PM 985 Views
You kind of inadvertently prove the point... - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM 1057 Views
So I see! - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM 1072 Views
A million people isn't a city? - 30/08/2011 08:28:20 PM 988 Views
Not necessarily. - 30/08/2011 10:49:08 PM 959 Views
You could be right re: population density. - 30/08/2011 11:06:36 PM 889 Views
Re: Not necessarily. - 30/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 983 Views
He's spoilt by living in New York - 31/08/2011 01:26:02 AM 1036 Views
That probably is part of it. - 31/08/2011 02:14:41 AM 843 Views
to meet their definition of best it also seems to help if you have mostly white - 31/08/2011 01:52:11 PM 848 Views
Have you been to Toronto or Vancouver ? - 31/08/2011 04:02:01 PM 858 Views
no but I have the internet and they meet the ethnic description I gave - 31/08/2011 05:25:40 PM 953 Views
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're fairly off with that one. - 31/08/2011 04:52:25 PM 909 Views
OK you did see where I included Asians didn't you and I would call less than 2% significant - 31/08/2011 05:31:45 PM 895 Views
I believe your words ... - 31/08/2011 05:49:26 PM 883 Views
yeah sprinkling was probably an understatement - 31/08/2011 07:36:16 PM 1106 Views
As a comparison ... - 30/08/2011 08:37:28 PM 1013 Views
that can be a little misleading - 30/08/2011 09:18:22 PM 942 Views
Point taken. - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM 1037 Views
Not enough Europe, apparently - 30/08/2011 08:13:48 PM 892 Views
Re: Europe - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM 947 Views
Interesting - 30/08/2011 09:59:27 PM 1080 Views
but everything tries to kill you in Oz - 30/08/2011 08:41:51 PM 850 Views
That's what keeps you fit and healthy. *NM* - 30/08/2011 09:17:32 PM 454 Views
weather is a factor and three Canadian cities made the top ten? - 30/08/2011 09:22:32 PM 991 Views
Vancouver at least has a nice climate. - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM 1124 Views
yeah there are not vey many US cities I would want to raise kids in - 30/08/2011 11:16:52 PM 806 Views
For the record, I found Vancouver quite lovely. - 31/08/2011 05:09:37 PM 1056 Views
Quality health care in the US, really? - 31/08/2011 12:27:41 AM 949 Views
seriously... - 31/08/2011 05:24:47 AM 868 Views
all you are arguing is quality=free - 31/08/2011 12:11:30 PM 877 Views
Also, - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM 954 Views
no it works out that nicely for most people - 31/08/2011 01:36:13 PM 922 Views
How can he afford a week in Vail and not afford insurance? - 31/08/2011 04:22:47 PM 913 Views
a lot of the uninsured are that way from choice - 31/08/2011 06:41:42 PM 837 Views
Livability obviously doesn't include "Concentration of Venomous Creatures". *NM* - 30/08/2011 11:43:43 PM 462 Views
Actually, the reason our cities are so liveable is because they're built to keep said creatures out - 31/08/2011 12:59:01 AM 822 Views
How? - 31/08/2011 08:20:01 AM 820 Views
Why no Boston? *NM* - 31/08/2011 12:16:28 AM 444 Views
A low population density seems to be a key determinant in these rankings - 31/08/2011 12:51:45 AM 811 Views
There is an obvious mistake - 31/08/2011 03:07:31 AM 1139 Views
I was almost killed by a wombat - 31/08/2011 05:26:28 AM 786 Views
you should print that on a tee shirt and sell it - 31/08/2011 09:11:18 PM 800 Views

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