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Hmm snoopcester Send a noteboard - 01/09/2011 08:49:54 PM
Back then, the Left (particularly in France) was truly abominable, supporting Mao and Stalin and Ho Chi Minh with a blind fanaticism. Of course, at the same time the Right was supporting Franco, Pinochet, the Shah, Marcos, Suharto, and apartheid South Africa.

My point is that in the present day, the right has largely disavowed dictatorial regimes whereas the left (admittedly, the far left) continues to indulge them.


I'm struggling to think of regimes that would hold some, however limited, appeal to the right of a similar level of fame to Gaddafi, Castro, Chavez etc. I think this distorts it - if Franco and Pinochet were still around, I'm not sure they'd not still be getting indulged.
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Why does the Left support dictators? Tom - 01/09/2011 02:37:25 AM 1266 Views
They don't. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 02:45:52 AM 830 Views
Do you have anyone besides those two? Roland00 - 01/09/2011 02:52:19 AM 798 Views
Well, he also mentioned Michael Moore Isaac - 01/09/2011 04:34:03 AM 682 Views
I ususally do not respond to threads like this, for many threads like this are done by unreasonable Roland00 - 01/09/2011 12:21:10 PM 583 Views
kucinich is moderate-left not far left moondog - 01/09/2011 04:42:49 AM 614 Views
I'm not trying to say they are mainstream left. Tom - 01/09/2011 02:39:18 PM 761 Views
I would agree currently that is true (if you are talking fringe left vs fringe right) Roland00 - 01/09/2011 03:59:45 PM 613 Views
As I mentioned in my reply to Legolas, 40 or 50 years ago it was mutual hypocrisy. Tom - 01/09/2011 08:01:23 PM 582 Views
don't confuse the far left with the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich moondog - 01/09/2011 04:53:14 AM 819 Views
"the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich" LOL thats funny *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 01:19:12 PM 288 Views
Yeah, I don't think most people support that deranged hobbit Tom - 01/09/2011 02:43:55 PM 654 Views
Tom, leave the absurdist and patently false dichotomies to trzaska. *NM* Stephen - 01/09/2011 11:43:35 AM 369 Views
Or at least add a smiley to your subject *NM* beetnemesis - 01/09/2011 12:57:45 PM 373 Views
Why does the Left support dictators? *NM* beetnemesis - 01/09/2011 12:59:19 PM 395 Views
There's nothing absurdist about it. Tom - 01/09/2011 02:40:32 PM 745 Views
That's just it... it ISN'T that obvious. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 06:46:41 PM 715 Views
Because there aren't any good right wing oppressive regimes for the Right to get behind these days? snoopcester - 01/09/2011 12:53:32 PM 619 Views
Iran Great Lord of Chaos - 01/09/2011 04:06:04 PM 773 Views
Wrong religion *NM* snoopcester - 01/09/2011 07:09:24 PM 364 Views
I am going to get flamed for this...but how about Israel Roland00 - 01/09/2011 10:03:59 PM 721 Views
You should read Postwar. If you haven't already. Legolas - 01/09/2011 06:18:55 PM 828 Views
No, there is at least one more explanation snoopcester - 01/09/2011 07:05:11 PM 819 Views
Yes, anti-Americanism is a very significant part of the equation. *NM* Tom - 01/09/2011 08:02:05 PM 372 Views
Outside America, yes, definitely. He seemed to be talking about inside the US though. Legolas - 01/09/2011 08:26:27 PM 807 Views
True snoopcester - 01/09/2011 08:45:05 PM 733 Views
well anti-Americanism runs about as strong in the American left as it does in European left *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 08:51:34 PM 411 Views
I was using US examples but not trying to limit myself to the US. Tom - 01/09/2011 09:57:57 PM 733 Views
I wanted to keep things confined to the present day. Tom - 01/09/2011 07:58:15 PM 609 Views
Hmm snoopcester - 01/09/2011 08:49:54 PM 647 Views
I disagree on the last point, and here's why: Tom - 01/09/2011 09:54:52 PM 769 Views
Interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way. *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2011 10:08:46 PM 362 Views
I think that does hold up to a point snoopcester - 02/09/2011 02:10:48 PM 688 Views
when you combine that with America's pro-British stance it explains why the Brits seem conflicted *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 07:51:41 PM 407 Views
America has a pro-British stance? I'm thinking that'd be news to most Brits. *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2011 08:27:33 PM 418 Views
Well like most things the Brits think they know about the US they would be wrong random thoughts - 01/09/2011 08:48:47 PM 815 Views
Of course, they are all the non-Jedi bad guys in Star Wars. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 09:10:46 PM 663 Views
Or they just see things differently. Legolas - 01/09/2011 10:15:20 PM 686 Views
But the Brits do need us, and we don't need them. Tom - 02/09/2011 06:01:10 PM 660 Views
Of course it's obvious. That doesn't mean they have to like it, or can't resent it. *NM* Legolas - 02/09/2011 06:14:37 PM 383 Views
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 01:25:40 AM 807 Views
how does that work for people like Chavez and Castro? random thoughts - 02/09/2011 01:30:02 PM 749 Views
Yes, that's how it works aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 10:29:38 PM 702 Views
I think your historical argument is flawed Tom - 02/09/2011 05:57:00 PM 859 Views
Possibly aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 10:37:19 PM 790 Views
I think that something has fundamentally changed now. Tom - 02/09/2011 11:21:02 PM 646 Views
I don't find your argument very convincing. Vodalus - 06/09/2011 05:20:12 AM 925 Views
... I don't. Camilla - 06/09/2011 08:44:27 AM 727 Views
Apologies, I was sure I responded to this when you first posted the thread. Joel - 07/10/2011 05:55:27 AM 788 Views
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