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I think that does hold up to a point snoopcester Send a noteboard - 02/09/2011 02:10:48 PM
despite that though, I easily can imagine various rightwing nutjobs like Beck supporting a Pinochet type figure if they felt the alternative was a freely elected Chavez type figure.

Your point about the Middle East is a good one - Saudi Arabia, despite being a pretty horrible place to be born for the average person, seems to do pretty well for supporters, as do other gulf states.
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Why does the Left support dictators? Tom - 01/09/2011 02:37:25 AM 1306 Views
They don't. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 02:45:52 AM 870 Views
Do you have anyone besides those two? Roland00 - 01/09/2011 02:52:19 AM 841 Views
Well, he also mentioned Michael Moore Isaac - 01/09/2011 04:34:03 AM 714 Views
I ususally do not respond to threads like this, for many threads like this are done by unreasonable Roland00 - 01/09/2011 12:21:10 PM 620 Views
kucinich is moderate-left not far left moondog - 01/09/2011 04:42:49 AM 649 Views
I'm not trying to say they are mainstream left. Tom - 01/09/2011 02:39:18 PM 796 Views
I would agree currently that is true (if you are talking fringe left vs fringe right) Roland00 - 01/09/2011 03:59:45 PM 650 Views
As I mentioned in my reply to Legolas, 40 or 50 years ago it was mutual hypocrisy. Tom - 01/09/2011 08:01:23 PM 616 Views
don't confuse the far left with the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich moondog - 01/09/2011 04:53:14 AM 854 Views
"the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich" LOL thats funny *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 01:19:12 PM 303 Views
Yeah, I don't think most people support that deranged hobbit Tom - 01/09/2011 02:43:55 PM 688 Views
Tom, leave the absurdist and patently false dichotomies to trzaska. *NM* Stephen - 01/09/2011 11:43:35 AM 386 Views
Or at least add a smiley to your subject *NM* beetnemesis - 01/09/2011 12:57:45 PM 388 Views
Why does the Left support dictators? *NM* beetnemesis - 01/09/2011 12:59:19 PM 413 Views
There's nothing absurdist about it. Tom - 01/09/2011 02:40:32 PM 788 Views
That's just it... it ISN'T that obvious. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 06:46:41 PM 746 Views
Because there aren't any good right wing oppressive regimes for the Right to get behind these days? snoopcester - 01/09/2011 12:53:32 PM 655 Views
Iran Great Lord of Chaos - 01/09/2011 04:06:04 PM 816 Views
Wrong religion *NM* snoopcester - 01/09/2011 07:09:24 PM 383 Views
I am going to get flamed for this...but how about Israel Roland00 - 01/09/2011 10:03:59 PM 753 Views
You should read Postwar. If you haven't already. Legolas - 01/09/2011 06:18:55 PM 870 Views
No, there is at least one more explanation snoopcester - 01/09/2011 07:05:11 PM 856 Views
Yes, anti-Americanism is a very significant part of the equation. *NM* Tom - 01/09/2011 08:02:05 PM 389 Views
Outside America, yes, definitely. He seemed to be talking about inside the US though. Legolas - 01/09/2011 08:26:27 PM 844 Views
True snoopcester - 01/09/2011 08:45:05 PM 771 Views
well anti-Americanism runs about as strong in the American left as it does in European left *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 08:51:34 PM 431 Views
I was using US examples but not trying to limit myself to the US. Tom - 01/09/2011 09:57:57 PM 765 Views
I wanted to keep things confined to the present day. Tom - 01/09/2011 07:58:15 PM 642 Views
Hmm snoopcester - 01/09/2011 08:49:54 PM 686 Views
I disagree on the last point, and here's why: Tom - 01/09/2011 09:54:52 PM 807 Views
Interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way. *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2011 10:08:46 PM 380 Views
I think that does hold up to a point snoopcester - 02/09/2011 02:10:48 PM 729 Views
when you combine that with America's pro-British stance it explains why the Brits seem conflicted *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 07:51:41 PM 425 Views
America has a pro-British stance? I'm thinking that'd be news to most Brits. *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2011 08:27:33 PM 441 Views
Well like most things the Brits think they know about the US they would be wrong random thoughts - 01/09/2011 08:48:47 PM 859 Views
Of course, they are all the non-Jedi bad guys in Star Wars. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 09:10:46 PM 696 Views
Or they just see things differently. Legolas - 01/09/2011 10:15:20 PM 731 Views
But the Brits do need us, and we don't need them. Tom - 02/09/2011 06:01:10 PM 697 Views
Of course it's obvious. That doesn't mean they have to like it, or can't resent it. *NM* Legolas - 02/09/2011 06:14:37 PM 406 Views
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 01:25:40 AM 842 Views
how does that work for people like Chavez and Castro? random thoughts - 02/09/2011 01:30:02 PM 788 Views
Yes, that's how it works aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 10:29:38 PM 740 Views
I think your historical argument is flawed Tom - 02/09/2011 05:57:00 PM 896 Views
Possibly aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 10:37:19 PM 825 Views
I think that something has fundamentally changed now. Tom - 02/09/2011 11:21:02 PM 683 Views
I don't find your argument very convincing. Vodalus - 06/09/2011 05:20:12 AM 964 Views
... I don't. Camilla - 06/09/2011 08:44:27 AM 768 Views
Apologies, I was sure I responded to this when you first posted the thread. Joel - 07/10/2011 05:55:27 AM 830 Views
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