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Your argument only works if you get to decide who and what god is, like I said strawman random thoughts Send a noteboard - 08/09/2011 06:32:17 PM
The basic flaw in your argument is it is designed to counter what you have decided Christians think instead of what they actually think. Most of the Christians I know believe in free will and that while God may have a plan but that doesn't prevent free will. Since they like the shepherd analogy a sphered might move the flock in one direction or another but he doesn't move each sheep. God may know who is going to win the Super Bowl but that doesn't mean he decided who is going to win. Besides from my experience most Christians pray for guidance and strength not that god to give them things. Personally I am agnostic so I don't have a horse in the race but you are going to make judgments on other people's belief systems you should make sure you understand it first.
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I figured I'd put RAFO's top religiologists on the case beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 02:03:55 PM 895 Views
The real answer is there is no effect because God is not real. Stephen - 08/09/2011 02:23:00 PM 527 Views
Right, I was working from that presumption beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 03:32:31 PM 503 Views
Re: Talking puppies! And kittens! I want! *NM* RomaVenkat - 08/09/2011 03:34:49 PM 227 Views
well I am not religious but that seems a bit of a strawman argument random thoughts - 08/09/2011 05:01:57 PM 533 Views
Hm, so there's a broad Divine Plan, but it doesn't matter either way who wins the Super Bowl? beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 05:25:23 PM 541 Views
Your argument only works if you get to decide who and what god is, like I said strawman random thoughts - 08/09/2011 06:32:17 PM 555 Views
...I don't think I'm really assuming that much. beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 06:43:16 PM 503 Views
I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: Gher - 08/09/2011 05:35:26 PM 619 Views
Re: I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 05:53:36 PM 486 Views
Re: I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: Darth_Katie - 08/09/2011 06:35:55 PM 607 Views
Oooh, can I be a top religiologist? ranagrande - 08/09/2011 06:52:18 PM 628 Views
I can totally do this. Vivien - 08/09/2011 06:57:19 PM 547 Views
Believe it or not, this is a thought I had when I was little and christian. Vivien - 08/09/2011 07:39:24 PM 555 Views
Predestination is something only strict Calvinists believe. Tom - 08/09/2011 08:53:59 PM 511 Views
Didn't mean to bring up predestination. Vivien - 08/09/2011 09:17:19 PM 528 Views
Sorry. That's how I read it... Tom - 09/09/2011 12:48:07 AM 579 Views
It's not a risk you can refuse... Vivien - 09/09/2011 06:04:44 AM 499 Views
Many choices in life are risky. Tom - 09/09/2011 03:15:49 PM 484 Views
It's a very silly argument that the T Rex is making. Tom - 08/09/2011 07:22:23 PM 501 Views
I think that looking for an absolute answer re: religion is pretty silly. nossy - 08/09/2011 08:22:16 PM 498 Views
wrong place *NM* Dannymac - 09/09/2011 05:00:52 AM 205 Views
Prayer is not a request line. Dannymac - 09/09/2011 05:03:10 AM 609 Views
That's a tough one... Isaac - 09/09/2011 01:27:25 PM 477 Views
That's part of the charm. Darth_Katie - 09/09/2011 08:50:05 PM 461 Views
Re: That's part of the charm. Isaac - 13/09/2011 12:08:45 AM 567 Views
I'm treating this like a survey even though you didn't make it one: It's about a relationship. Joel - 12/09/2011 11:23:45 PM 550 Views
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