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Didn't mean to bring up predestination. Vivien Send a noteboard - 08/09/2011 09:17:19 PM
Of course, those same Calvinists would say that if you are destined to turn against God when you grow up you won't die as a child.

Of course, everyone else believes that there is always a choice.


Forget the destiny part, that was just a word I used. Not a good choice in this context, clearly. How about if I said, what if I grow up and I choose to turn away from God?

Although: predestination is such an interesting concept that strict calvinists are not the only ones who consider it in some shape or form. Not in a strict sense, but in a "God has a plan for me" kind of way. We've talked about predestination vs. free will at bible study and we weren't strict calvinists.
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I figured I'd put RAFO's top religiologists on the case beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 02:03:55 PM 652 Views
The real answer is there is no effect because God is not real. Stephen - 08/09/2011 02:23:00 PM 298 Views
Right, I was working from that presumption beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 03:32:31 PM 294 Views
Re: Talking puppies! And kittens! I want! *NM* RomaVenkat - 08/09/2011 03:34:49 PM 138 Views
well I am not religious but that seems a bit of a strawman argument random thoughts - 08/09/2011 05:01:57 PM 318 Views
Hm, so there's a broad Divine Plan, but it doesn't matter either way who wins the Super Bowl? beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 05:25:23 PM 312 Views
Your argument only works if you get to decide who and what god is, like I said strawman random thoughts - 08/09/2011 06:32:17 PM 344 Views
...I don't think I'm really assuming that much. beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 06:43:16 PM 286 Views
I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: Gher - 08/09/2011 05:35:26 PM 411 Views
Re: I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 05:53:36 PM 274 Views
Re: I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: Darth_Katie - 08/09/2011 06:35:55 PM 344 Views
Oooh, can I be a top religiologist? ranagrande - 08/09/2011 06:52:18 PM 415 Views
I can totally do this. Vivien - 08/09/2011 06:57:19 PM 313 Views
Believe it or not, this is a thought I had when I was little and christian. Vivien - 08/09/2011 07:39:24 PM 305 Views
Predestination is something only strict Calvinists believe. Tom - 08/09/2011 08:53:59 PM 274 Views
Didn't mean to bring up predestination. Vivien - 08/09/2011 09:17:19 PM 301 Views
Sorry. That's how I read it... Tom - 09/09/2011 12:48:07 AM 361 Views
It's not a risk you can refuse... Vivien - 09/09/2011 06:04:44 AM 288 Views
Many choices in life are risky. Tom - 09/09/2011 03:15:49 PM 264 Views
It's a very silly argument that the T Rex is making. Tom - 08/09/2011 07:22:23 PM 279 Views
I think that looking for an absolute answer re: religion is pretty silly. nossy - 08/09/2011 08:22:16 PM 272 Views
wrong place *NM* Dannymac - 09/09/2011 05:00:52 AM 112 Views
Prayer is not a request line. Dannymac - 09/09/2011 05:03:10 AM 406 Views
That's a tough one... Isaac - 09/09/2011 01:27:25 PM 272 Views
That's part of the charm. Darth_Katie - 09/09/2011 08:50:05 PM 258 Views
Re: That's part of the charm. Isaac - 13/09/2011 12:08:45 AM 351 Views
I'm treating this like a survey even though you didn't make it one: It's about a relationship. Joel - 12/09/2011 11:23:45 PM 319 Views
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