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okay, except that those unions do the same thing. LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 20/09/2011 06:39:27 PM
Exactly like a group of people who combine their voices so that politicians can't just hire, fire, and cut their pay at will.


They put pressure on school districts to hire, fire and cut pay as they will...and sometimes the school district is right! Everyone's hands keep getting tied, and the teachers, the very ones the unions are supposed to protect, are the ones who end up suffering in the long run.
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Washington Teachers refuse Judge order to return to work. Dannymac - 19/09/2011 11:05:13 PM 784 Views
What's the dispute on? Legolas - 19/09/2011 11:13:24 PM 615 Views
Seniority, Class Size, and Salaries. Dannymac - 19/09/2011 11:41:40 PM 525 Views
and children have a right to an education. LadyLorraine - 20/09/2011 12:30:20 AM 464 Views
So we ought to pay for it. Dannymac - 20/09/2011 05:48:34 PM 450 Views
They aren't solving any problems. LadyLorraine - 20/09/2011 08:33:22 PM 768 Views
Have you heard of another tactic that makes anyone listen? Dannymac - 21/09/2011 12:41:05 AM 446 Views
I don't really have any ideas myself. It's not my strong suit (political wrangling, that is) LadyLorraine - 21/09/2011 01:00:21 AM 482 Views
I don't really agree with seniority/tenure as much, but class size... LaSombra - 20/09/2011 07:42:39 PM 537 Views
That doesn't really tell me anything, you do realize. Legolas - 20/09/2011 08:41:50 PM 429 Views
You have to respect people for seeking more money? Seriously? Cannoli - 20/09/2011 12:23:22 AM 540 Views
you missed the whole other part where he talks abotu class size and what not Aisha - 20/09/2011 02:05:12 AM 606 Views
Class size is a bullshit argument that teachers' unions push on people. Tom - 20/09/2011 03:25:58 AM 458 Views
You don't get to use the "Think of the Children" argument... it belongs to the teachers. Dannymac - 20/09/2011 05:52:36 PM 425 Views
I don't want them to do their job. Can I stop paying? Cannoli - 21/09/2011 12:30:24 AM 695 Views
teachers don't only work 9 months of the year. LadyLorraine - 21/09/2011 12:51:57 AM 608 Views
please stop with the poor underpaid teacher song random thoughts - 21/09/2011 12:59:09 AM 436 Views
You don't mean DC, right? I'm roommates with a DC teacher, I feel like I would have noticed beetnemesis - 20/09/2011 01:02:00 AM 642 Views
seriously. if you break it down hourly... LadyLorraine - 20/09/2011 01:48:40 AM 529 Views
Eh... I'm more union-friendly than most, but teachers' unions are pretty terrible. *NM* Ghavrel - 20/09/2011 06:11:09 AM 215 Views
I don't disagree *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/09/2011 02:11:14 PM 213 Views
I agree they have a lot of "stuff," but I don't think much of it is unwarranted beetnemesis - 20/09/2011 02:30:35 PM 544 Views
being anti-teacher's union is not the same as being anti-teacher random thoughts - 20/09/2011 03:32:57 PM 596 Views
That is similar to claiming to be pro-soldier and cutting the VA. Dannymac - 20/09/2011 06:03:29 PM 577 Views
then the focus needs to be on finding an alternative. LadyLorraine - 20/09/2011 06:36:42 PM 603 Views
I agree. Dannymac - 20/09/2011 08:45:36 PM 470 Views
of please random thoughts - 20/09/2011 06:56:04 PM 484 Views
You still don't get it, do you? Dannymac - 20/09/2011 08:57:52 PM 582 Views
Do you have facts about how teachers are rated? beetnemesis - 20/09/2011 08:08:04 PM 564 Views
well teachers are rated differently in different systems random thoughts - 20/09/2011 09:23:43 PM 632 Views
there are some really shitty charter schools too. LadyLorraine - 20/09/2011 09:36:42 PM 452 Views
and they need to learn form the charter schools that are doing well random thoughts - 20/09/2011 10:06:19 PM 559 Views
well there's some problems there LadyLorraine - 21/09/2011 12:20:27 AM 549 Views
yes there is no perfect system just trade offs and choices random thoughts - 21/09/2011 03:04:01 AM 645 Views
I agree with you LadyLorraine - 21/09/2011 03:17:40 AM 645 Views
I've little sympathy here Isaac - 20/09/2011 03:08:58 AM 596 Views
I have no sympathy whatsoever. Tom - 20/09/2011 03:26:29 AM 423 Views
I don't agree with all your opinions on schools... LadyLorraine - 20/09/2011 04:21:01 AM 532 Views
Oooh, Cancer is a horrible disease that spreads wildly and kills you! Dannymac - 20/09/2011 06:04:53 PM 545 Views
okay, except that those unions do the same thing. LadyLorraine - 20/09/2011 06:39:27 PM 651 Views
Public sector unions need to be banned random thoughts - 20/09/2011 04:30:00 AM 604 Views
+1, as per FDR and union leaders of that time, public unions are asking for trouble/problems. *NM* trzaska2000 - 20/09/2011 06:52:37 PM 220 Views
No, they need to be replaced. Dannymac - 20/09/2011 09:05:52 PM 403 Views
no they breed corruption and need to at the minimum be barred from political donations and strikes random thoughts - 20/09/2011 09:51:38 PM 610 Views
The small government guy needs to ask? Dannymac - 21/09/2011 12:39:05 AM 402 Views
the government guy has no answer *NM* random thoughts - 21/09/2011 03:05:14 AM 322 Views
Good for them. jh - 20/09/2011 06:33:27 AM 619 Views
Fired them all, hire new teachers, end of problem..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 20/09/2011 06:51:01 PM 230 Views
You missed the memo. Great Lord of Chaos - 20/09/2011 09:45:55 PM 484 Views
I would bet a lot of them will show up for the hire back interviews *NM* random thoughts - 20/09/2011 10:07:05 PM 210 Views
+1, a huge number of them will come crawling back for jobs. *NM* trzaska2000 - 20/09/2011 10:11:09 PM 243 Views
That does make sure of getting the best and most able.... *NM* snoopcester - 20/09/2011 10:52:32 PM 208 Views
lol. youre funny. I like you. *NM* Aisha - 20/09/2011 11:01:10 PM 188 Views
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