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Like I say, I appreciate exceptions when justified (and again, only claiming to be "not wrong." ) Joel Send a noteboard - 06/10/2011 07:26:18 AM
"Right" (or "grammatical," if you prefer) does not seem an option since you essentially argue the rule in all other cases should be replaced for a single word just for the heck of it. I understand it is popular, but so is the phenomenon Camilla referenced of replacing "'ve" with "of." That makes it a popular error, not grammatically correct.
I didn't even read all that, but obviously I could argue till I'm blue in the face and you'd persist. I give up on you as impossible, crazy, and ungrammatical.

However, I have yet to see any reason to drop the apostrophe from "its"--and ONLY "its"--save "'cos I wanna." You wanna do that, I don' wanna; fair enough then.
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Grammar junkies Dark Knight - 05/10/2011 06:46:31 PM 1079 Views
I'm not always sure that I'm correct, but.... nossy - 05/10/2011 07:04:13 PM 774 Views
I didn't see any errors Dark Knight - 05/10/2011 07:24:27 PM 756 Views
Re: I didn't see any errors nossy - 06/10/2011 03:14:07 PM 634 Views
You mean ... Nate - 06/10/2011 03:58:32 PM 686 Views
Must ... have ... grammar. Nate - 05/10/2011 07:53:34 PM 944 Views
For you and Tom as well, the same question about question eight. Joel - 05/10/2011 08:33:39 PM 1210 Views
Tom can probably give you actual terms and correct rules, but here's my take on it. Nate - 05/10/2011 08:43:47 PM 713 Views
Er...yes I meant them as a singular idea... *NM* Dark Knight - 05/10/2011 08:47:34 PM 449 Views
Use them together, and only together, for fifteen years and we can discuss this again. *NM* Tom - 05/10/2011 09:32:30 PM 379 Views
That makes sense as far as it goes. Joel - 05/10/2011 09:02:42 PM 751 Views
But do you actually regard them that way? Nate - 05/10/2011 09:08:36 PM 747 Views
Yeah, pretty much. Joel - 05/10/2011 09:25:18 PM 706 Views
Re: Yeah, pretty much. Nate - 05/10/2011 09:29:33 PM 569 Views
OK then. Joel - 05/10/2011 09:59:50 PM 746 Views
No, Joel. You're just wrong. Again. Get used to it. We have. Tom - 05/10/2011 09:31:21 PM 649 Views
I can live with being wrong, at least in the sense of technical error. Joel - 05/10/2011 10:06:30 PM 744 Views
Let's just pare this down to the bare bones. Tom - 06/10/2011 01:37:30 AM 604 Views
He made a mistake that I did not recognize as a mistake because I read his words as he intended. Joel - 06/10/2011 04:43:39 AM 749 Views
You bring up a point that I was researching the other day Dark Knight - 05/10/2011 08:53:40 PM 796 Views
You guys mean a hyphen, not a dash. Rebekah - 05/10/2011 09:00:25 PM 728 Views
You're right of course! Nate - 05/10/2011 09:13:44 PM 810 Views
I frequently am. Rebekah - 05/10/2011 09:16:38 PM 809 Views
So I've noticed. Nate - 05/10/2011 09:19:38 PM 719 Views
I like telling people, too. Rebekah - 05/10/2011 09:34:50 PM 722 Views
You can use charmap. Joel - 05/10/2011 10:21:32 PM 768 Views
Re: You guys mean a hyphen, not a dash. Stephen - 06/10/2011 01:15:02 PM 688 Views
Mmm, dashing. Nate - 05/10/2011 09:02:53 PM 727 Views
Emdashing is an entirely different form of punctuation. Joel - 05/10/2011 09:07:36 PM 775 Views
Achtung! Grammatik! :insert Nazi-saluting smiley as the Wehrmacht marches by: Tom - 05/10/2011 08:10:45 PM 845 Views
I love this bit. Nate - 05/10/2011 08:26:52 PM 838 Views
Bring back the BSG! Joel - 05/10/2011 08:55:32 PM 751 Views
Re: your 2nd irritating error for question 2 Sareitha Sedai - 06/10/2011 04:12:49 PM 703 Views
Good poll, especially for this site. Joel - 05/10/2011 08:11:10 PM 844 Views
Re: serial comma. Nate - 05/10/2011 08:31:58 PM 719 Views
Maybe I was being a little anal there. Joel - 05/10/2011 08:35:33 PM 688 Views
Same here Dark Knight - 05/10/2011 08:43:34 PM 622 Views
I think it's conventional to use a comma before "etc". Rebekah - 05/10/2011 08:55:11 PM 700 Views
Re: Grammar junkies random thoughts - 05/10/2011 08:33:06 PM 738 Views
Re: Grammar junkies Dark Knight - 05/10/2011 08:49:43 PM 787 Views
People should talk in a way that can be understood, else they are not communicating. Joel - 05/10/2011 09:17:37 PM 784 Views
Re: "everyone's". ~winky~ *NM* Nate - 05/10/2011 09:22:18 PM 365 Views
Is it time for my lecture on superfluous apostrophes again? Joel - 05/10/2011 09:43:47 PM 689 Views
You mean your lecture on "superfluous" apostrophes. Rebekah - 05/10/2011 09:53:31 PM 646 Views
As have I. Multiple times. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/10/2011 09:55:08 PM 353 Views
I am not stubborn, just true to my convictions. Joel - 05/10/2011 09:56:39 PM 896 Views
Unsurprisingly, I don't really agree with you at all on this point. :p Nate - 05/10/2011 10:29:59 PM 770 Views
I do not really think I am "right" on this one so much as "not wrong." Joel - 06/10/2011 12:01:36 AM 676 Views
But contradictions are inherent in the entire English language! Nate - 06/10/2011 01:25:39 AM 695 Views
Ghoti. Also, this is why Rebekah and don't argue this any more. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/10/2011 04:44:42 AM 325 Views
Sure, but not deliberate ones created by grammarians who know better. Joel - 06/10/2011 05:40:58 AM 701 Views
I'm going to listen to the others. Nate - 06/10/2011 06:17:18 AM 718 Views
Like I say, I appreciate exceptions when justified (and again, only claiming to be "not wrong." ) Joel - 06/10/2011 07:26:18 AM 612 Views
But you are wrong Sareitha Sedai - 06/10/2011 02:17:40 PM 743 Views
that is OK he is very good at being wrong *NM* random thoughts - 06/10/2011 03:43:23 PM 387 Views
I disagree. Joel - 07/10/2011 12:15:14 AM 686 Views
How utterly unsurprising Sareitha Sedai - 07/10/2011 02:21:38 PM 640 Views
"We want to be nothing if not persistent." Joel - 07/10/2011 02:39:19 PM 700 Views
Doesn't matter. Sareitha Sedai - 07/10/2011 03:12:14 PM 727 Views
Perhaps not, but it should, and I am not above being a lone voice crying in the wilderness. Joel - 08/10/2011 05:17:35 PM 793 Views
What. Zeeb - 06/10/2011 06:17:41 PM 784 Views
Those cases are not the same, because those words are already possessive in their own right. Joel - 06/10/2011 10:52:06 PM 778 Views
if you have trouble understanding my post it is more likely do to typing skills than grammar random thoughts - 05/10/2011 09:31:42 PM 697 Views
Likely so; I have the same problem, but usually when writing by hand. Joel - 05/10/2011 09:53:08 PM 677 Views
You called? Rebekah - 05/10/2011 08:53:54 PM 746 Views
Grammar schmammar! Avendesora - 05/10/2011 09:01:47 PM 821 Views
Wongy tip #77 Two Wongs - 05/10/2011 11:15:12 PM 683 Views
#1) I do not use NetSpeak while playing games, texting or using social media. TaskmasterJack - 05/10/2011 11:34:12 PM 696 Views
What about NateSpeak? *NM* Nate - 06/10/2011 04:01:08 PM 341 Views
I did use that once to tell the story of you and CNRedDragon going to see Ice Princess. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 07/10/2011 01:46:50 AM 340 Views
A timeless classic. Nate - 07/10/2011 01:53:36 AM 663 Views
Re: Grammar junkies wolfsister - 06/10/2011 01:17:28 AM 708 Views
Yes. Camilla - 06/10/2011 06:53:46 AM 646 Views
I forgot about "of" for "have." Joel - 06/10/2011 07:31:11 AM 686 Views
I try ironclad - 06/10/2011 09:18:29 AM 745 Views
I freebase split infinitives on a regular basis. Stephen - 06/10/2011 01:53:36 PM 622 Views
The split infinitive is not grammatically incorrect. Tom - 06/10/2011 02:04:34 PM 647 Views
I wish more people knew this. Rebekah - 06/10/2011 07:38:46 PM 645 Views
Junky Grammar. Sareitha Sedai - 06/10/2011 04:24:01 PM 638 Views
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