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You obviously don't understand the definitions of socialism and communism. Tom Send a noteboard - 10/10/2011 02:41:39 PM
Socialism is state control of most if not all sources of production. It is the form of economic system that the Soviet Union had.

Communism is defined (by the communists, no less) as the stage of development where the state withers away, money is no longer needed and all assets are held in common by the people. There is no example of a communist economic system ever having been implemented on a large scale. The closest thing that I can find is Nestor Makhno's anarchist collectives in the Ukraine during the Russian Civil War.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Is communism the true economy of democracies? - 10/10/2011 01:35:24 AM 977 Views
Sorry, not following this..... - 10/10/2011 03:33:11 AM 871 Views
Re: Sorry, not following this..... - 10/10/2011 03:54:45 AM 721 Views
Um, a LOT of places have mixed "free" market and state rule. - 10/10/2011 05:43:49 AM 828 Views
WTF? Canada, Western Europe, and Japan are democracies, not state-rule like China - *NM* - 10/10/2011 05:53:17 PM 384 Views
Think he means we all have public sector enterprise. - 10/10/2011 06:24:10 PM 656 Views
Yeah, I thought it was clear as well. - 10/10/2011 06:32:02 PM 692 Views
Yeah, Stephen pretty much covered it. - 11/10/2011 06:10:38 AM 727 Views
They are not similar. - 10/10/2011 04:01:59 AM 671 Views
Re: They are not similar. - 10/10/2011 04:47:26 AM 761 Views
Let's see...you're asking if property theft by the state is compatible with freedom? No. - 10/10/2011 04:58:14 AM 662 Views
I'm curious how you distinguish "full socialism" from "full communism." - 10/10/2011 05:32:53 AM 638 Views
You obviously don't understand the definitions of socialism and communism. - 10/10/2011 02:41:39 PM 733 Views
OK, I see what you mean now, thanks. - 11/10/2011 04:29:35 AM 657 Views
No, but socialism is. - 10/10/2011 06:09:55 AM 723 Views
No. A thousand times no. - 10/10/2011 07:46:22 AM 793 Views
Guess I count myself among those fools, though I pretty much agree with Danny. - 10/10/2011 10:52:11 AM 719 Views
I don't usually answer your scattershot rants, Joel, but you have overextended yourself. - 10/10/2011 05:28:07 PM 761 Views
That still looks like Stalin and Mao rationalizing away the impossibility of their stated goals. - 11/10/2011 05:59:06 AM 872 Views
No time to today, but you're very wrong. - 11/10/2011 02:32:38 PM 650 Views
OK. - 11/10/2011 03:08:17 PM 627 Views
You really should read more about the Soviet Union. - 11/10/2011 03:19:32 PM 714 Views
Not sure it would change my perceptions. - 11/10/2011 03:41:08 PM 646 Views
In a single word: No. - 11/10/2011 08:26:36 AM 656 Views

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