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Re: I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Roonas Send a noteboard - 24/11/2011 03:07:09 AM
It's not about people not willing to work to take care of themselves. It's about there being a small group of people who own pretty much everything.


A protest of that "fact" does nothing. A socialist revolution would rectify that situation, but a "sit in" protest making people aware of things that they are already inherently aware of is silly and redundant, not to mention ineffectual. I think they failed first to come up with a message and a reason for the protest, and now that they think they have one, are realizing it won't solve the problem just to whine about it. Votes and bullets change governments, not protests.

That's not "life's unfair, deal with it", that's "the system as it currently stands unfairly favors a group of people who do not need to be favored."


Unfairly why? I am not a corporate flunky or desire to be in charge of one, I have no particular hate or dislike, or the opposite for the corporate culture as it is today. I just think what they are doing does not change the first part of your statement, because I do believe it is: "Life's unfair, deal with it". Have's and Have-not's will continue to exist even if said Socialist Revolution were to come to fruition. What matters is your own personal planning and decisions and goals. What everyone else does merely sets the playing field.

Btw, I'm sure that your bootstraps attitude sounds really romantic, but the fact is, cleaning toilets for the rest of your life is really shitty (pun unintended).


Not romantic, just the reality I was raised in. I have cleaned toilets, I have painted houses on long summer days, I have done many many other jobs that sucked the life from my soul, but I did it to survive and worked hard to get where I am today.

Regardless of whether it's fun or your passion or what have you, the reason people work instead of pro-bono volunteerism is because we wouldn't choose to do that job for free. We work to live, some people have it rough and yet still succeed, these protesters live to avoid work, that's the fact as I see them displayed out on the streets. If they showed me something more, like the "cause oriented" protests of ending a war in the vietnam era or Civil rights, something with clarity and substance, then I might actually give them some credit ... but as of right now it is about entitlement, pure and simple.


-Roon
-Roonas.

*MySmiley*
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1973 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 628 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 1099 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 637 Views
Some of them are doing just that. - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 988 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 637 Views
How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 1095 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1180 Views
Because it's easy. - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 1077 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 988 Views
Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 694 Views
Asian parents have the right idea - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 1116 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 1057 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 1094 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 1088 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 580 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 592 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 1051 Views
Well... - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 1023 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 532 Views
To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 1022 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 958 Views
they are. - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 1005 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 1066 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 598 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 1102 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 1122 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 1108 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 1028 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 579 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 1099 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 916 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1174 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 1048 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 1092 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 1072 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 1074 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 993 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 1117 Views
That's a shitty situation - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 953 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 906 Views
no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 869 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 1031 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 963 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 560 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 1070 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1145 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 1086 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 936 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 995 Views
You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 1071 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 1034 Views
You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 975 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 1041 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 1052 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 1057 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 1104 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 577 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 1043 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 972 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 1045 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 1054 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 553 Views
Ikke ennĂ¥. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 1089 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 604 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 963 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 1063 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 1037 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 909 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 1105 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1133 Views
Re: I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled - 24/11/2011 03:07:09 AM 974 Views

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