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No, it doesn't. Tom Send a noteboard - 20/12/2011 08:30:55 PM
I do say people are idiots. That doesn't mean they're liars and cheats, too, or that everything they say or do is wrong as a result of their idiocy.

Furthermore, many of the people who, like me, have experiences that can't be explained based on our understanding of physics are not in the "idiot" or "cheat" categories.

You're being needlessly flippant in your response, too. I don't count it as a "win" that I mentioned Kim Jong-il and said it would be good if he died within 12 hours (give or take) of his actual death, and I am not stating that there is any theory surrounding it that can be proven in any way - in fact, I'm arguing the opposite and saying that I can't measure this scientifically but that it still has meaning. Your absurd statements regarding the eventual certainty of anyone's death are just glib inanities.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Kim Jong-il is dead. Would you become a fervent believer? Tom - 19/12/2011 03:37:28 AM 1770 Views
If I was a Christian, I'd pray that he would burn forever in hell. Great Lord of Chaos - 19/12/2011 03:47:52 AM 1190 Views
See, I can't be an atheist. Tom - 19/12/2011 03:53:55 AM 1150 Views
I agree about atheism LadyLorraine - 19/12/2011 04:19:02 AM 1065 Views
It's an approximation. Vivien - 19/12/2011 05:40:05 PM 1045 Views
no, I'm not saying that the sheer number of people alone is sufficient LadyLorraine - 19/12/2011 10:13:09 PM 928 Views
Re: See, I can't be an atheist. Great Lord of Chaos - 19/12/2011 04:25:06 AM 1032 Views
No, Pascal's Wager is stupid. Tim - 19/12/2011 03:09:42 PM 1026 Views
You obviously misread my comments or ignored them. Tom - 19/12/2011 03:39:59 PM 1054 Views
You're answering a different point to the one I was addressing. Tim - 19/12/2011 04:01:54 PM 952 Views
For atheism to be a tenable position, one must assume that millions lie about their experiences. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:11:53 AM 1050 Views
Look, doesn't this go against your most sacred principle? jh - 20/12/2011 06:43:27 AM 1005 Views
I'm pretty sure he's not saying it's undeniable proof. LadyLorraine - 20/12/2011 09:19:44 AM 970 Views
No, it doesn't. Tom - 20/12/2011 08:30:55 PM 915 Views
Re: No, it doesn't. jh - 20/12/2011 09:21:22 PM 959 Views
This militant atheism is somewhat amusing. Tom - 20/12/2011 09:48:57 PM 967 Views
... somewhat irrational at times too Isaac - 21/12/2011 01:22:54 AM 884 Views
Huh? snoopcester - 21/12/2011 10:47:06 AM 945 Views
That's somewhat unrelated to the intended point of the post Isaac - 21/12/2011 12:41:49 PM 951 Views
My "Huh?" was at your claim that any reasonable definition Kim Jong-il was a millitant athiest snoopcester - 21/12/2011 12:58:44 PM 925 Views
You're objecting to me calling the Military Dictator militant? Isaac - 21/12/2011 03:13:35 PM 994 Views
Is that the long way of saying you can't back up what you said? snoopcester - 21/12/2011 04:06:06 PM 906 Views
Okay Isaac - 21/12/2011 05:03:07 PM 1032 Views
Your position isn't rational nor logical Helene - 20/12/2011 12:45:03 PM 1000 Views
I never stated it was either. That's the problem with spiritual matters. Tom - 20/12/2011 08:43:46 PM 898 Views
How about a faith atheist? Palatine - 19/12/2011 04:28:59 PM 1073 Views
Nevermind. It appears you answered that in your reply to Tim. *NM* Palatine - 19/12/2011 04:32:19 PM 532 Views
Re: See, I can't be an atheist. snoopcester - 19/12/2011 04:57:23 PM 1034 Views
It's impossible to tell if worshipping a false god would be worse than worshipping no god at all. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:14:59 AM 857 Views
Sounds like you must be a modern-day prophet beetnemesis - 19/12/2011 05:24:24 PM 891 Views
Well, it's *possible* that he is. Vivien - 19/12/2011 05:49:34 PM 984 Views
Hah, fair enough beetnemesis - 19/12/2011 06:47:07 PM 972 Views
Idiocy. Confirmation bias doesn't explain away external phenomena. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:19:10 AM 992 Views
Well. Sareitha Sedai - 21/12/2011 01:49:36 PM 1011 Views
I didn't forget about it. I was getting ready to give up on it. Tom - 21/12/2011 02:27:18 PM 897 Views
That doesn't really make sense. Sareitha Sedai - 21/12/2011 03:04:23 PM 830 Views
No, it does make perfect sense. Tom - 21/12/2011 06:17:02 PM 1014 Views
Also, learn to use the subjunctive. It's "if I WERE a Christian..." Tom - 19/12/2011 03:54:20 AM 993 Views
The sad thing about that comment... Larry - 19/12/2011 04:52:57 AM 1121 Views
I'm pretty sure there's plenty of middle ground between those two examples LadyLorraine - 19/12/2011 05:31:13 PM 893 Views
Tom is right. Agnosticism is really the only rational posistion. Urza - 20/12/2011 04:17:08 AM 902 Views
Tom, I think this means you should take up ForEx trading. *NM* Urza - 19/12/2011 04:00:20 AM 455 Views
I might. I'm close enough to it as is. I just did some ForEx ISDAs for clients... Tom - 19/12/2011 04:03:11 AM 1073 Views
I really am gonna miss Hitchens...a lot *NM* *NM* Roland00 - 19/12/2011 04:06:50 AM 464 Views
I will miss him, too...a lot. *NM* Tom - 19/12/2011 04:17:05 AM 451 Views
so, hypothetically...if I was to send you a list of people... LadyLorraine - 19/12/2011 04:25:47 AM 952 Views
Let's not try that. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:21:35 AM 949 Views
I'm so ronery 김정일 - 19/12/2011 06:36:38 AM 1010 Views
I thought you were asking if I believed in KJ-I, the Eternal Leader Praziquantel - 19/12/2011 06:55:08 AM 892 Views
The article I just read said he died on Saturday. Rebekah - 19/12/2011 08:58:17 AM 974 Views
Yeah, he actually died on a train Saturday morning before Tom made the comment. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:13:44 PM 413 Views
I'm not claiming causality. And, for the record, I first made the comment on Friday afternoon. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:25:07 AM 976 Views
You know what's really weird? Isaac - 19/12/2011 11:32:23 AM 970 Views
It has been there for 6 hours at this stage. Stephen - 19/12/2011 12:34:57 PM 1056 Views
don't forget Mugabe (sp) Yunalesca - 19/12/2011 01:06:24 PM 902 Views
Zimbabwe basically is dust by now. *NM* Tim - 19/12/2011 02:52:51 PM 448 Views
They took it down, apparently. *NM* Tom - 20/12/2011 04:40:24 AM 438 Views
Not surprising, still in the revisions if anyone wants to see of course Isaac - 20/12/2011 11:06:05 AM 1158 Views
Turns out Kim Jong really was il? snoopcester - 19/12/2011 12:10:15 PM 930 Views
all praise Madokami! *NM* Yunalesca - 19/12/2011 01:03:26 PM 508 Views
He's not dead-dead. Neither is his father. Just ask the North Koreans. Palatine - 19/12/2011 04:23:48 PM 947 Views
Re: He's not dead-dead. Neither is his father. Just ask the North Koreans. TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:15:09 PM 905 Views
That happened to me too. Nate - 19/12/2011 09:45:48 PM 1030 Views
Re: That happened to me too. TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:48:36 PM 914 Views
Re: Legend Palatine - 20/12/2011 04:54:40 PM 915 Views
I wonder if they're going to embalm him? Tom - 20/12/2011 04:39:33 AM 860 Views
The problem with predictions that come true Vivien - 19/12/2011 05:28:24 PM 1010 Views
I don't make a lot of predictions. *NM* Tom - 19/12/2011 08:18:53 PM 568 Views
Well you should start at least journaling the ones that you do make. Vivien - 19/12/2011 08:40:18 PM 960 Views
I actually now do tell my friends when I have dreams that have the "feel" to them. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:36:07 AM 1033 Views
Just ones about old, sick guys dying? *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 19/12/2011 09:51:12 PM 400 Views
No, sadly. Tom - 20/12/2011 04:31:44 AM 833 Views
I can attest to the fact that this conversation took place on Facebook Saturday. TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:19:06 PM 901 Views
Yeah, I thought that reply seemed in the wrong place Isaac - 19/12/2011 09:28:17 PM 907 Views
Re: Yeah, I thought that reply seemed in the wrong place TaskmasterJack - 19/12/2011 09:31:00 PM 929 Views
Yes, TMJ, you also contributed in this case. *NM* Tom - 20/12/2011 04:38:42 AM 425 Views
I am not a dog to be petted! TaskmasterJack - 21/12/2011 02:42:55 AM 907 Views
HAHAHAHA!!!! *NM* Tom - 21/12/2011 05:31:06 AM 513 Views
Coincidentally, I found this site today kHz1000 - 19/12/2011 10:57:36 PM 964 Views
Oh, I liked that site. I found it a few years ago. *NM* Tom - 20/12/2011 04:37:04 AM 434 Views
Jeez, I hope I never get on your bad side ironclad - 20/12/2011 12:06:54 AM 865 Views
Things did change for the better with Stalin's death. Vivien - 20/12/2011 02:51:12 AM 936 Views
Not for Stalin *NM* Tom - 20/12/2011 09:49:39 PM 508 Views
eh, you can't have everything Yunalesca - 20/12/2011 11:08:36 PM 840 Views
So I guess you want me to destroy the voodoo doll I have of you? Oh wait...never mind. *NM* Tom - 20/12/2011 04:37:35 AM 414 Views
Not to downplay your awesomely uncanny coincidence... Avendesora - 20/12/2011 01:19:33 PM 909 Views
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