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Re: while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. Legolas Send a noteboard - 10/01/2012 07:38:39 PM
Why would that mean he's not actually a candidate? He would have vastly greater influence still to promote his ideas as President.

Like I said: he's not actually a candidate because he doesn't want to be president bad enough to be willing to pay the price. The price being to adapt his views and statements to cater to the voters' taste. Some candidates compromise more than others, give up more of their beliefs than others, but any serious candidate has to compromise rather a lot. Paul doesn't want to; he cares more about being consistent and true to himself than he cares about becoming president. As long as that's the case, he won't *be* president.
It could happen. After Iowa, there's a three-way tie for first place between Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, and Ron Paul. With very few votes counted so far in New Hampshire, Paul is a close second to Romney there too.

The Republican field is hopelessly divided, and Paul has the advantage that his fans tend to be the most loyal by far, and aren't very likely to run from one flavor of the week to the next, like so many of the Republican voters. But as Random Thoughts points out below, Paul's views on numerous issues are so far from the mainstream that his negative ratings are far higher than most other candidates' - most of the people who aren't already for him are very unlikely to ever get there. Iowa is massively biased towards candidates with particularly loyal followings, what with the caucus system. NH is not, but hardly representative for the country as a whole - there's a reason why that one project (whose name escapes me, sorry) chose NH as the state to found its Libertarian republic in.
If by some miracle Ron Paul does get the republican nomination, I think he goes on to become President. (For the record, if by an even greater miracle Jon Huntsman were to be the republican nominee, the general election will be a contest too close for me to call. If it's anyone else: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, or Romney, than Barack Obama will serve a second term.)

That is extremely unlikely. If Ron Paul does get the nomination, and if he continues to stand by all of his key stances, the Republican party will get the soundest beating it's gotten since Barry Goldwater, or quite probably even worse. Being admired for your honesty and integrity is all good and well, but it won't compensate for having crazy policies, and as noted before, Paul's combination of stances is such as to make just about everybody find at least one of his stances crazy. There are definitely some independents and some Democrats who are attracted to Paul - but you'll forgive me for saying most of them are attracted either because they realize he'll never be a viable candidate anyway, or because they aren't aware of some of his stances. Or because they're foreigners - Paul's status as cult hero in student circles isn't limited to the US.

Agreed about Huntsman, I think, but I really wouldn't be too sure Obama will have such an easy time with Romney. Or even with Gingrich, should he make it there. The other two, agreed.
And if it did happen, then yes, I think I would like it very much. I don't completely agree with Ron Paul on everything, but he comes much, much closer than any other candidate in any other party. Unlike with most candidates, and unlike our current President, chances are good that Paul will actually do, or at least try to do, what he says he will. He has a long congressional record to use as evidence: in all his time in the House, he has never voted to raise taxes and he has never voted to go to war.

One would think that your current President was the perfect demonstration of how vital political skills and knowing how to reach compromises with Congress are for a president.
As you say, it would be exciting to see how many of his ideas he could actually implement, how people would respond to them, and what the results ultimately were. I shall gladly volunteer my country for this experiment, and I'm not a madman. In fact, the last time I took psychiatric exam, the doctor said I was one of the "most classically normal" people he'd seen. Anyway, Paul's theories are sound and any changes he is able to make are sure to be improvements. He certainly couldn't be any worse than Bush or Obama.

A large part of the experiment is of course in the war between the president and his own party's Congress that would ensue, and in seeing how much a president can get done in opposition to Congress. You may have seen one of his opponents point out that "the policies of Paul that I like are the ones he couldn't pass anyway, while he could pass the ones I dislike on day one"; while I suspect my view of which policies I like and dislike is rather different, there may still be some truth to the point.
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Rövsmör. *NM* - 04/01/2012 09:50:21 PM 488 Views
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try using more heat and better oil *NM* - 06/01/2012 06:18:19 PM 462 Views
Corn oil? - 06/01/2012 09:05:09 PM 729 Views
Peanut *NM* - 06/01/2012 11:27:49 PM 482 Views
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The question boils down to why should someone tolerate what they think is wrong. - 05/01/2012 10:53:40 PM 845 Views
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To be fair... - 06/01/2012 05:32:31 AM 942 Views
You are correct - 06/01/2012 01:21:18 PM 984 Views
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Santourm is - 07/01/2012 04:24:45 AM 915 Views
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so Obama offended me by attending a racist America hating church - 06/01/2012 05:32:14 PM 826 Views
Those are really not equivalent. - 06/01/2012 04:18:37 PM 753 Views
Re: Those are really not equivalent. - 06/01/2012 10:27:11 PM 884 Views
This. - 07/01/2012 01:35:43 PM 777 Views
I agree, lets shoot anyone who doesn't think like you *NM* - 06/01/2012 05:17:41 PM 465 Views
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I find myself agreeing with you recently - 06/01/2012 08:38:37 PM 872 Views
dude, gross! *NM* - 04/01/2012 04:39:34 PM 471 Views
Dear Iowa, - 04/01/2012 08:04:09 PM 871 Views
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Yes, for the reason you state. - 07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM 849 Views
I really do not agree. - 09/01/2012 08:51:46 PM 868 Views
he is moving up in New Hampshire - 10/01/2012 05:16:14 PM 964 Views
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It's not a foregone conclusion yet. - 07/01/2012 04:03:51 PM 884 Views
give up the hope it is nothing more than a pipe dream - 09/01/2012 02:57:03 PM 889 Views
All of the republican candidates are pipe dreams. - 09/01/2012 08:56:57 PM 697 Views
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So is women's health. About 50% of US. *NM* - 13/01/2012 01:46:15 AM 514 Views
Um... - 10/01/2012 03:54:53 PM 785 Views
is an ass - 10/01/2012 05:10:09 PM 925 Views
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So segregation when done by private businesses is ok? - 11/01/2012 02:20:32 PM 962 Views
Define "OK." - 11/01/2012 08:29:09 PM 847 Views
Paul is an equal opportunity infuriator, to borrow Vivien's word. - 09/01/2012 10:56:57 PM 849 Views
I agree with you completely. - 10/01/2012 12:06:19 PM 876 Views
while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. - 10/01/2012 02:21:46 PM 1289 Views
Re: while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. - 10/01/2012 07:38:39 PM 871 Views
Ron Paul's biggest problem is isn't a republican - 10/01/2012 04:18:16 PM 872 Views

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